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  • Originally posted by Stephen P View Post
    I just did a crash course in paying attention. Thanks for all helpful info. Websites sites from speedbird1960 gave me a QLD police force (Airwing) from raw data hex. Also read a heap of threads. It seems unless i have an f box ill never see the ground like i can out my window like i do. We have HEAPS of ALL sorts of traffic here, but YBSU1 always will win. Not sure of their location, worked out if its me feeding or not and get overtaken. Im thinking of where i live, the surounding terrain and makes sense. Flat and close vs high and signal/processing/equpiment/what your not meant to see. I am Fascinated
    Stephen, which feeder are you exactly - I can't seem to locate your previous post? F-YBSU1 is actually located out Chinchilla way on the Darling Downs - bloody long way from the Sunny Coast - there have been posts about it, including from the operator, elsewhere on this forum in earlier times. I'd expect that it is one of the key feeders currently providing MLAT coverage over SE Qld because of it's remarkable range. Cheers.

    Edit: Sorry just found the post and see that you are T?-YSBU3 - I have not seen you yet - I'll keep an eye out. John.
    Last edited by airnrail; 2014-04-02, 22:43.

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    • Yes John, T-YBSU3 is me. You will see me for fleeting glimpses (dont blink) and then im gone again. Taken over by F-YBSU1 or
      T-MLAT3. Even F-YBSU2 but thats where i lose aircraft. I applied for FR24 gear 10 or so weeks ago, hence my cheap setup. Sux to lose planes so close. Was hoping to see them put down on runway and taxi. Setup tells me ive 280 miles coverage but obviously not fast enough. When i win lotto i will just buy a box. I dont really care who shows as the radar so long as it gives the coverage. Being so close to Airport and still not have my info is a bit of a let down really.

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      • Active Australian Feeders

        For anyone who is interested, the following is a list of Aussie feeders that I have actually spotted in the past six weeks or so. I have no doubt that there are others, particularly private T feeders who may operate only now and again or more likely are being beaten to the punch by newer FR24 feeders in their vicinity. There are also a few FR24 feeders that have been notified over time that have never appeared or have subsequently disappeared.

        My reason for compiling the list is to try to get an idea of where feeders are actually located because there is ongoing discussion in this very thread about the adhoc way in which airport codes are applied to feeders that are nowhere near that airport. I am also interested in mapping the FR24 coverage in Australia because despite the 115 odd feeders on this list there are still glaring holes in various parts of the country and this list is the first step.

        Where I have nominated an actual location for a feeder, that declaration is based on either the operator having disclosed the information in this forum or by observation of planes - it seems a fair assumption that if a feeder can get planes down to ground level at it's nominated airport (or some other airport!) then it is located pretty close to that airport.

        If any feeders would like to share their actual locations or indeed any errors etc in the list please make a post here. Does not have to be too precise and certainly no GPS co-ords unless you want unexpected visitors. Apologies if the table does not translate accurately in upload. Thanks and cheers. John

        FEEDER State Nominal Airport Actual Location

        T-WIIB1 Bandung(Indonesia)Christmas Island
        F-YSCB1 ACT Canberra ?
        T-YSCB1 ACT Canberra ?
        T-YSCB3 ACT Canberra ?
        T-YSCB4 ACT Canberra ?
        T-YSCB5 ACT Canberra ?
        F-YMAY1 NSW Albury Bairnsdale, Vic
        T-YMAY2 NSW Albury ?
        F-YBNA1 NSW Ballina/Byron Ballina
        T-YSBK1 NSW Bankstown ?
        T-YBHI2 NSW Broken Hill Broken Hill
        T-YSCH2 NSW Coffs Harbour ?
        F-YSCN1 NSW Camden ?
        F-YSCN6 NSW Camden ?
        T-YCOR1 NSW Corowa ?
        T-YSDU1 NSW Dubbo ?
        F-YMER1 NSW Merimbula ?
        T-YNAR1 NSW Narranderra ?
        T-YPKS1 NSW Parkes ?
        T-YPMQ1 NSW Port Macquarie Kemsey
        F-YSSY1 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY3 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY5 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY6 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY7 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY8 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSSY20 NSW Sydney ?
        T-YSTW2 NSW Tamworth ?
        T-YSWG2 NSW Wagga Wagga ?
        F-YWLM1 NSW Williamtown ?
        T-YWLM1 NSW Williamtown ?
        F-YBAS1 NT Alice Springs Alice Springs
        T-YBAS1 NT Alice Springs ?
        F-YAYE1 NT Ayres Rock Ayres Rock
        F-YAYE2 NT Ayres Rock Ayres Rock
        F-YPDN2 NT Darwin Darwin
        T-YDDN1 NT Darwin Darwin
        F-YDDN2 NT Darwin Darwin
        T-YDDN2 NT Darwin Darwin
        F-YTNK1 NT Tennant Creek Tennant Creek
        T-YLLE1 Qld Ballera Ballera
        F-YBAM1 Qld Bamarga Bamarga
        F-YBBN1 Qld Brisbane Toowoomba
        T-YBBN1 Qld Brisbane Brisbane
        F-YBBN2 Qld Brisbane ?
        F-YBBN3 Qld Brisbane ?
        F-YBBN4 Qld Brisbane Toowoomba
        T-YBBN22 Qld Brisbane ?
        T-YBBN26 Qld Brisbane ?
        T-YBBN27 Qld Brisbane ?
        T-YBCS1 Qld Cairns ?
        T-YBCS2 Qld Cairns ?
        T-YBCS4 Qld Cairns ?
        T-YBCS5 Qld Cairns ?
        T-YBMK1 Qld Mackay ?
        T-YBPN1 Qld Proserpine ?
        T-YDKI1 Qld Dunk Island Mission Beach
        F-YDKI1 Qld Dunk Island Innisfail
        T-YEML1 Qld Emerald Emerald
        T-YGLA1 Qld Gladstone ?
        F-YGLA1 Qld Gladstone ?
        T-YBCG4 Qld Gold Coast ?
        T-YBCG5 Qld Gold Coast ?
        T-YBCG7 Qld Gold Coast ?
        F-YLRE1 Qld Longreach Longreach
        F-YBMA1 Qld Mt. Isa Mt. Isa
        T-YBRK2 Qld Rockhampton ?
        F-YBSU1 Qld Sunshine Coast Warra
        F-YBSU2 Qld Sunshine Coast ?
        T-YTWB1 Qld Toowoomba Toowoomba
        N-YBTL3 Qld Townsville ?
        T-YBTL1 Qld Townsville ?
        F-YPAD1 SA Adelaide Moomba
        F-YPAD2 SA Adelaide Port Lincoln
        T-YPAD2 SA Adelaide ?
        F-YPAD3 SA Adelaide Adelaide
        F-YPAD4 SA Adelaide Mt. Barker
        T-YPAD9 SA Adelaide ?
        F-YPLC1 SA Port Lincoln ?
        F-YWHA1 SA Whyalla Whyalla
        F-YMHB1 Tas Hobart Hobart
        F-YMLT1 Tas Launceston ?
        T-YMLT1 Tas Launceston ?
        T-YWYY1 Tas Burnie ?
        T-YARA1 Vic Ararat ?
        T-YMAV1 Vic Avalon ?
        T-YMAV2 Vic Avalon ?
        F-YMEN1 Vic Essendon ?
        F-YMEN2 Vic Essendon ?
        T-YMEN4 Vic Essendon ?
        F-YMML1 Vic Melbourne ?
        F-YMML2 Vic Melbourne ?
        T-YMML3 Vic Melbourne ?
        T-YMML6 Vic Melbourne ?
        T-YMIA2 Vic Mildura ?
        T-YMIA3 Vic Mildura ?
        T-YNHL1 Vic Nihill ?
        F-YABA1 WA Albany ?
        F-YPBR1 WA Broome Broome
        T-YBLN2 WA Busselton ?
        F-TBUN1 WA Bunbury ?
        F-YPCR1 WA Carnarvon Carnarvon
        F-YGEL1 WA Geraldton Geralton
        T-YPKA1 WA Karratha Karratha
        F-YPKU1 WA Kununurra Kununurra
        F-YLST1 WA Leinster Leinster
        T-YPPH2 WA Perth Perth
        F-YPPH3 WA Perth ?
        T-YPPH3 WA Perth Perth
        F-YPPH4 WA Perth ?
        F-YPPH5 WA Perth ?
        T-YPPH13 WA Perth ?
        T-YPPH15 WA Perth ?
        T-YPPH16 WA Perth Perth
        T-YPPH17 WA Perth ?
        T-YPPH19 WA Perth ?
        F-YPPD1 WA Port Hedland Port Hedland

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        • lol my bad. just did some re reading. Apologies for my dyslexic moment. T-YBSU3 to confirm.

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          • jeepers airnrail. Busy lad!
            Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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            • ok T-YBSU3 close enough to see visually half of Sunshine Coast main runway 18/36 and secondary runway 12/30

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              • airnrail, just a suggestion:

                Perhaps you can adopt the Australia Feeder Station List from speedbird?

                http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...ll=1#post42524

                Then you can edit them and add along feeder location?

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                • Originally posted by Avsec View Post
                  Geoff, I have a notepad file "Australian Civil Hexcodes" which covers 7C0000 = VH-AAA thru to 7C822D = VH-ZZZ. Military hexcode allocation is a lottery? I only see how to attach photos and videos in this forum, not sure how I can attach files.

                  Noel
                  Hi Noel, Hi Noel,
                  Umm, not sure either. I notice that I am not approved for Private Messages, otherwise we could PM the details. Maybe you could scan the pages as an jpeg, then insert the image.

                  Geoff

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                  • Originally posted by POR911 View Post
                    Hi Noel, Hi Noel,
                    Umm, not sure either. I notice that I am not approved for Private Messages, otherwise we could PM the details. Maybe you could scan the pages as an jpeg, then insert the image.

                    Geoff
                    PM's have been disabled for everyone

                    Use the icons just above the text entry box to attach pictures / videos - easiest if you select [Go Advanced] below the text entry box.

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                    • Originally posted by POR911 View Post
                      Hi Matt, How do you do the math to convert the hex to reg?
                      Geoff
                      Apologies if this doesn't make much sense

                      First step I do is to strip off the 7c (for Australia) and convert the last 4 characters to decimal
                      eg for the one I converted earlier (7c4396) hex 4396 equates 17302 in decimal

                      Secondly, although there are (obviously) 26 characters in our alphabet they're using 36 for each "column" (so VH-AAA = 0 decimal = 7c0000 and VH-AAZ = 25 decimal = 7c0019 but the next in sequence VH-ABA = 36 decimal = 7c0024)
                      Therefore to work out the first letter divide by 1296 (36*36)

                      in our example 17302/1296=13.3503 - take the number before the decimal point (13) and because they started with 7c0000 = VH-AAA it means A=0, B=1, C=2 etc
                      Therefore the number 13 maps to the 14th letter of the alphabet, which is N

                      For the 2nd letter, multiply the integer value we got in the first equation by 1296 (ie 13 * 1296) and subtract that from the original number ( 17302 - (13 * 1296)) = 454
                      Then divide by 36 (12.6111) and once again take the number before the decimal point (12) which maps to the 13th letter of the alphabet, M

                      For the 3rd letter multiply the integer value we got in the second equation by 36 (ie 12 * 36) and subtract that from the second number ( 454 - (12 * 36)) = 22
                      22 maps to the 23rd letter of the alphabet, W

                      hence 7c4396 maps to VH-NMW


                      Going back the other way is of course much easier.
                      For each letter find out what position of the alphabet it is in and subtract 1.
                      Then multiply the first letter by (36*36), the 2nd letter by 36 and add the 3rd letter
                      so for VH-NMW N=13, M=12, W=22
                      (13 * 36 * 36) + (12 * 36) + 22 = 17302 which is 4396 hex, hence the ICAO hex code is 7c4396

                      And... here's some Perl code that does all the heavy lifting...
                      - Matt
                      T-YPPH2

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                      • Hi airnrail

                        I have a couple of additions and clarifications for the Perth area (I've also been curious the last few days so have been taking notes of radar codes)

                        Additions (seen in the last week or so)
                        FEEDER State Nominal Airport Actual Location
                        F-YABA2 WA Albany ?
                        T-YPPH9 WA Perth ?
                        T-YPPH10 WA Perth ?
                        T-YPPH20 WA Perth ?

                        Clarifications (I know where these are hosted)
                        FEEDER State Nominal Airport Actual Location
                        F-YPPH3 WA Perth Perth
                        T-YPPH17 WA Perth Perth
                        - Matt
                        T-YPPH2

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                        • T-YSWG2 NSW Wagga Wagga | Wagga Wagga

                          Wouldn't allow me to quote it.
                          F-YSWG1 and T-YSWG2

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                          • Originally posted by North Borneo Radar View Post
                            airnrail, just a suggestion:

                            Perhaps you can adopt the Australia Feeder Station List from speedbird?

                            http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...ll=1#post42524

                            Then you can edit them and add along feeder location?
                            Yeah I'm intending to do that soon - just want to find out about any others that are out there, errors etc first. There's not previously been a really accurate list of Aussie feeders in my view Cheers.

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                            • Originally posted by Stephen P View Post
                              Yes John, T-YBSU3 is me. You will see me for fleeting glimpses (dont blink) and then im gone again. Taken over by F-YBSU1 or
                              T-MLAT3. Even F-YBSU2 but thats where i lose aircraft. I applied for FR24 gear 10 or so weeks ago, hence my cheap setup. Sux to lose planes so close. Was hoping to see them put down on runway and taxi. Setup tells me ive 280 miles coverage but obviously not fast enough. When i win lotto i will just buy a box. I dont really care who shows as the radar so long as it gives the coverage. Being so close to Airport and still not have my info is a bit of a let down really.
                              G'day Stephen. Among all the places in Oz that need better ground coverage, Maroochy would be high on my list. Gold Coast also in same category until recently but a FR24 box there seems to have fixed it. I don't know the ins and outs of getting these because I don't feed (I have a lousy location with lots of obstacles and F-YBSU1 is pretty close to me anyway) but perhaps others here can give you a few tips. Seems like a no-brainer to me when you see some of the other places that have less traffic and sometimes more than one FR24 feeder. Cheers John

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                              • Thanks for that. Cheers.

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