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    I remember seeing pictures of a guy talking about SDR at a conference with him sitting on the plane picking up stuff with passengers next to him. I would be nervous if i saw someone with a dongle with an antenna too though!

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    Dvb-T stick pass on x-ray without damage? I'm not sure......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcarlos View Post
    Dvb-T stick pass on x-ray without damage? I'm not sure......

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    I don't see why not. Laptops do.

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    ADS-B onboard B737 realtime PFD and ND

    ADS-B onboard Ryanair 737
    Not exactly what TS was asking for but this person used it to display (in real time) the status from the primary flight display (PFD) and navigation display (ND).

    If you are worried about the text on the dongle causing trouble you can always put a sticker over it with 'music' written on it

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    ...especially as I am interested in identifying the geographical features when visibility is good.
    This will be a challenge. You will need display software with a detailed map included to be used offline...
    I don't know if it will be possible to save the flight path like you would with a GPS.


    With my Garmin eTrex20 I'm able to zoom in to see details on the map while it's saving the track. Keeping the GPS near the window is enough to keep a lock on narrow body's but on wide body's that can be a challenge.

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    Laptops don't pass on x-ray

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    Next month I'm going to fly and I I'll try this app with my doongle https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ion_ADSB_final I I'll try to pass doongle together with pc 💻 portable for scape x-ray

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    I think the matter of whether it is possible for it to work or not misses the point. No cabin crew member (or certainly other passengers) are going to be familiar with 'dongles' and /or the other paraphernalia or terminology discussed in this thread with which we may be familiar and could therefore create suspicion with what an individuals intention may be (as others have also hinted at). I am of the opinion that it may be seen as a provocative move by a pax with all too obvious consequences. Simply because one (or a few) individuals have attempted it in the past with some degree of success doesn't indicate carte blanche acceptance world wide, let alone the next time you might fly on an aircraft with this intention and as I stated previously no matter how well intentioned. Of course, others will/may have a very different point of view. In that case airlines/various authorities such as FAA/CASA and their European equivalents/counterparts policies may also have an impact on the outcome. If a brew-ha is possible to break out over an over-sized bag attempting to be placed in an overhead bin, or similar disagreement of say, sitting next to a large or inebriated pax, I'd hate to think of the reaction to the scenario being discussed. One may wish to consider the situation from the cabin crews perspective.

    In a prevous post on this thread I made the statement concerning looking up sites such as FR24 on the aircraft's 'internet' facility (if it is equipped with such capability) but I believe bandwidth may sadly impact on this idea especially in the case where many pax may be logging on at the same time. I'm not aware if they've successfully overcome that hurdle just yet.

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    Last edited by fungus; 2015-05-01 at 14:22.
    YSSY2/T-YSSY4 [SBS-1 Basestation w/- SSE-1090 SJ Mk2 Antenna (Thanks Delcomp) ] [Uniden UBCD996T w/- 16 element Wideband Discone VHF/UHF Antenna, and tuned 108MHz-137MHz Airband Antenna] [Trialing a home-brew 1090MHz collinear antenna]

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcarlos View Post
    Laptops don't pass on x-ray
    I've never had any trouble bringing my laptop's and tablet on board an aircraft for international or Schengen flights. Sometimes they ask me to turn the laptop on but haven't had that in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus View Post
    No cabin crew member (or certainly other passengers) are going to be familiar with 'dongles' and /or the other paraphernalia or terminology discussed in this thread with which we may be familiar and could therefore create suspicion with what an individuals intention may be (as others have also hinted at). I am of the opinion that it may be seen as a provocative move by a pax with all too obvious consequences.
    Gregg

    If you look at the YouTube video you'll notice that there is no antenna attached to the dongle making it inconspicuous to fellow pax.

    I use my GPS on board but do so very discreetly as the 'rules' vary per airline/crew member.
    On some airlines it is stated that transmitting devices are forbidden but devices that receive are allowed. Should someone ask you can always explain that is is an app that can tell you where you are flying by using GPS. If you are allowed to use a GPS there is a greater change that TS can use the dongle.

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    I'd still recommend erring on the side of caution. The one situation we don't want to find ourselves in is forcing airlines/authorities to decide to encrypt ads-b due to this sort of thing becoming an issue or perceived issue for them (the 'norm'), as I said, no matter how well intentioned the users of these setups may be. As it is, here in Australia, some individuals from Air Services Australia hold a certain position with regard to flight tracking websites (I'm not going to elaborate further here) and we certainly don't want to give them more reasons or 'ammunition' as it were for those concerns.

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    Last edited by fungus; 2015-05-01 at 22:13.
    YSSY2/T-YSSY4 [SBS-1 Basestation w/- SSE-1090 SJ Mk2 Antenna (Thanks Delcomp) ] [Uniden UBCD996T w/- 16 element Wideband Discone VHF/UHF Antenna, and tuned 108MHz-137MHz Airband Antenna] [Trialing a home-brew 1090MHz collinear antenna]

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