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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    [url]f you Google for MH17 + 13:21 UTC you will find another 7000+ hits. I guess you have not done your home work before you claim that no one posted this.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=MH17...m=122&ie=UTF-8



    It's not so common for media to write "last position was 34.1245" as a normal person have no idea what that means. For example I have never seen an article that there was a car accident or fire at position LON XX.XXX LAT YY.YYY. Instead media draws a map or mentions a city nearby. Some choose to mention a smaller city closer to location, other choose a bigger city far away as more people will recognize the name.

    BTW, the tweet was published in at least 7 articles
    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/07/...-we-dont-know/
    http://nos.nl/liveblog/676042-live-v...ergestort.html
    http://pt.euronews.com/2014/07/17/bo...e-da-ucrania-/
    http://fr.euronews.com/2014/07/17/un...se-en-ukraine/
    http://es.euronews.com/2014/07/17/se...te-de-ucrania/
    http://arabic.euronews.com/2014/07/1...-east-ukraine/
    http://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad...s-ucrania.html
    Ok, so I've done a bit more homework

    and there is one more possible:
    http://yess.de/gab-der-ukrainische-s...7-zu-2816.html

    Actually, the German Wikipedia page also has the location:
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia-Airlines-Flug_17
    "Die letzten automatisch übertragenen Signale des ADS-B-Flugüberwachungssystems wurden um 13:21:28 Uhr UTC von der Position ♁48° 2′ 25″ N, 38° 46′ 22″ O (Höhe 33.000 Fuß, Kurs 118°) empfangen." Citing FR24 as the source.

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    We are very well aware of that the crash site is 15 km before last signal. Currently we can't explain it on any other way than winds or maybe aircraft turning around if it lost a wing or stabilizer (Wild speculation. I don't say it happened, just say that this could explain why aircraft turned back). We will have to wait for the black box data to get the answers. I for sure trust the data we have received and it looks like our data can be confirmed by another source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I for sure trust the data we have received and it looks like our data can be confirmed
    I'm confident also that it will be - but no speculation from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I for sure trust the data we have received and it looks like our data can be confirmed by another source
    Per that thread,
    FR24 Hasn't released any RAW data to compare it with any other source.
    PlanePlotter hasn't released any RAW data to the public to compare it with other possible sources like FR24.

    Will FR24 Release any RAW data from the aircraft that did the above MH17 flight ?

    My guess FR24 won't be releasing any Raw Data from the MH17 Crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalBrian View Post
    Will FR24 Release any RAW data from the aircraft that did the above MH17 flight ?
    Out of curiosity, what would raw data add to the data from the tweet?

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    I would like to attract attention to two photos. on the photo in this thread, post #53 the cockpit panel is heavily damaged with missile shrapnel. as well you can easily google for the photos of the tail parts, the wreckages of stabilizers have no penetrating holes. that's mean the missile exploded in front of cockpit, it is typical behavior of surface-air missile

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    Hi,

    I would like some help tracking these three planes history and getting the most recent photos of them. Can you experts please direct me. And if anyone has their own photos please share them or keep them safe. :-)

    MH370 Boeing Serial number 28420
    MH17 Boeing Serial number 28411
    Seen in Tel Aviv Boeing serial number 28416 was a Malaysian Plane

    http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/0...flag-attack-j/

    Thank you very much.

    Sea Petal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Petal View Post
    Hi,

    I would like some help tracking these three planes history and getting the most recent photos of them. Can you experts please direct me. And if anyone has their own photos please share them or keep them safe. :-)

    MH370 Boeing Serial number 28420
    MH17 Boeing Serial number 28411
    Seen in Tel Aviv Boeing serial number 28416 was a Malaysian Plane

    http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/0...flag-attack-j/

    Thank you very much.

    Sea Petal
    Updating what I found from plane spotters...

    MH370 Boeing 28420
    http://www.planespotters.net/search.php?q=28420

    MH17 Boeing 28411
    http://www.planespotters.net/search.php?q=28411

    Boeing 28416 possibly seen in January at Ovda ?
    http://www.planespotters.net/Aviatio....php?tag=28416

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    Hi Mike

    Why is there no flight record for Boeing 28416 9M MRI ?
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mri/
    Or Boeing 28411 9M MRD
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mrd/
    Or Boeing 28420 9M MRO
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mro/

    Do you have it stored?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Sea Petal; 2014-07-24 at 23:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Petal View Post
    Hi Mike

    Why is there no flight record for Boeing 28416 9M MRI ?
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mri/
    Or Boeing 28411 9M MRD
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mrd/
    Or Boeing 28420 9M MRO
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/9m-mro/

    Do you have it stored?

    Thanks!
    It turns out
    Boeing 28416 a previous Malaysian plane was acquired by Gat Telesis and is being dismantled in Isreal
    http://www.gatelesis.com/?s=MSN+28416

    The second Malaysian Boeing 28418 is also now owned by Gat Telesis but not sure where it is being dismantled
    http://www.gatelesis.com/ga-telesis-...and-757-200er/

    What are the odds? A Malaysian plane goes completely missing and 5 months later we have not found a single piece of that plane or have any concrete evidence of where it is.
    Then a second Malaysian plane almost identical is involved in an international war incident and crashes just months later. Meanwhile identical planes are being dismantled in two different places previous to the disappearance and crash. There were two other planes in the air over the Ukraine at the same time but it was the Malaysian plane that gets shot down. It just doesn't feel right at all. Bizarre and treacherous.
    Last edited by Sea Petal; 2014-07-25 at 00:29.

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