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    Dump AirNav Radarbox, buy SBS-3 ?

    Dump AirNav RadarBox and buy SBS-3 ?

    Any expert advise on whether I should do this ?

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    You can read Anmer's thread on it.

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    Thread: Would I Buy an SBS-3?
    I get quite a lot of emails asking this question. The answer, as always, depends what you want to do.
    http://radarspotting.com/forum/index...opic,91.0.html

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    Thanks - I have read that posting but still undecided.

    I am tired of dealing with a piece of crappy RadarBox 3D Software that crashed whenever I closed any other software I was using & stealing my Data without my permission.

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    Depends what you want out of the hobby and your specific interest.

    As someone who's been "radarspotting" since 2005 and has both receivers, this is my personal opinion.

    RadarBox

    The receiver is prone to hardware failure and often needs repairing though usually undertaken free of charge.

    The receiver isn't as good as the SBS-3 - less aircraft picked up.

    The RadarBox software has some useful features that Basestation doesn't, such as filtering and integrated database - aircraft, photos and routes.

    The RadarBox server that delivers the database suffers outages and data integrity issues.

    AirNav uploads data from the RadarBox without the customer's express permission to resell as RadarBox24.com. I regard this as theft and have reported AirNav to the Communications Ombudsman.

    RadarBox has a shared network if you subscribe.

    There are many reported software bugs but there have been no software updates for over three years.

    The RadarBox receiver is the only one that can't provide raw data for the PlanePlotter Mlat and Beamfinder aircraft plotting options.

    Less expensive than the SBS-3

    SBS-3

    Probably the best receiver available today.

    Includes a 6 channel Software Defined Radio

    Regular firmware and software updates

    No subscription data sharing but free, third-party option hosted by F24

    No integrated database but all features are available for free using third-party options

    Basestation software is highly customisable

    Supports PlanePlotter's Mlat and Beamfinder

    More expensive than the RadarBox

    Conclusions

    Although Basestation doesn't have all the features of RadarBox, I prefer its map which I can customise it to my preferred look and feel. I'm more "at home" with Basestation than RadarBox which is possibly why the SBS family has outsold Radarbox in the order of three to one.

    The SBS-3 is more expensive now as RadarBox has been forced to drop its price but the new Puck from Kinetic is said to use the same hardware as the SBS-3, albeit without the SDR. At a rumoured price of GBP £250, the Puck will be a strong competitor.

    If you decide to change, sell your RadarBox sooner rather than later as I expect the resale value will drop even further once the Puck is released.
    Mike


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    I have been "plane spotting" since 1979 - from the window of my bed room where I can see planes taking off and landing in WSSS.

    It was only 3 years ago that I got really interested in plane spotting after the Iceland volcano blew up and cause chaos in the aviation industries.

    I was swayed by AirNav Systems colourful sales materials with some HOT AIRS Descriptions of their products capabilities - that turned out to be nothing but BULL-SHITS.

    There are plus and minus in AirNav RadarBox - the worst that really pissed me off is their lack of response whenever I tried to contact them.

    Crappy software is not updated and crashed whenever I use other softwares. Then they banned their customers for telling the truth of their THEFT !

    Most likely, I will ditch AirNav RadarBox and go the for SBS-3. A Company that pissed off their customer don't deserve to exist !

    Whether I sell the AirNav RadarBox 3D or not is immaterial to me - maybe, I just toss it out of my 25 th floor apartment window and video it landing on the hard concrete ground floor - so I can Post the Video on YouTube.
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    Do you have the email address of the Communications Ombudsman ?

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    the SBS-3 is definitely the better ADS-B receiver. Since I got mine in November the AirNav Radarbox is off line. Additionally it can receive AIS ship messages with a very good sensitivity.

    @ Birdie. Why not trying first an alternative solution with cheap RTL SDR stick from Sim Lim and the RTL1090 software http://rtl1090.web99.de The range is not bad and with your new antenna it might cover the same area as with your RB. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/r...sh/message/301

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    Quote Originally Posted by mani210 View Post
    the SBS-3 is definitely the better ADS-B receiver. Since I got mine in November the AirNav Radarbox is off line. Additionally it can receive AIS ship messages with a very good sensitivity.

    @ Birdie. Why not trying first an alternative solution with cheap RTL SDR stick from Sim Lim and the RTL1090 software http://rtl1090.web99.de The range is not bad and with your new antenna it might cover the same area as with your RB. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/r...sh/message/301

    I already got a AirNav RadarBox. But, I plan to dump AirNav and go for the SBS-3.

    Setting up my new 10dBi collinear soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdie View Post
    I already got a AirNav RadarBox. But, I plan to dump AirNav and go for the SBS-3.

    Setting up my new 10dBi collinear soon.
    Do let us know how the antenna performs and the shipment and installation! can't wait to have a look at WSSS when u get it installed. Btw, what antenna are you using currently? Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Borneo Radar View Post
    Do let us know how the antenna performs and the shipment and installation! can't wait to have a look at WSSS when u get it installed. Btw, what antenna are you using currently? Cheers
    You guys going to have a good laugh if you see my antenna " temporary installation " - hanging by a rope on the outside of my room window.

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