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    That is a "Homer Simpson" moment "..dohhh!" How incredibly stupid can two pilots be? I would not say that they need to be fired but they do need more training as maybe many other pilots need too. The press says that both these pilots had over 10K hours. But a fundamental mistake like that is not excusable.

    a 10.000 lb mistake on take off weight is not excusable on any level no matter what tools the pilots were using and maybe indicative of a systemic problem with pilot training in general. The FAA and others should not wait for a disaster to take that mistake seriously.
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    Not the first time it seems.. Jetstar this time was 10tonne mis-calculated

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel...-off-too-heavy
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    Not off to a fantastic start it seems..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr...flight-US.html
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    To Err is to be Human

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam26K View Post
    That is a "Homer Simpson" moment "..dohhh!" How incredibly stupid can two pilots be? I would not say that they need to be fired but they do need more training as maybe many other pilots need too. The press says that both these pilots had over 10K hours. But a fundamental mistake like that is not excusable.

    a 10.000 lb mistake on take off weight is not excusable on any level no matter what tools the pilots were using and maybe indicative of a systemic problem with pilot training in general. The FAA and others should not wait for a disaster to take that mistake seriously.
    I think you are being a little to harsh here, to err is to be human and I hate to think how many times we have all accidently hit a wrong key on an iPad, after all, it does not have very large on-screen keys and unless both Pilot and Co-Pilot are math geniuses, very few people would spot such a mistake as they not able to look at a figure and know instantly if it is correct or not.

    We have become so used to technology, we expect it to be accurate, however, a computerised device is only as good as the data it is given, hence my argument against 'man-made' climate change as dependent upon the data given, you can get the software to spit out any old tosh (My PhD is in Human and Computer Interaction).

    Whilst I appreciate in their jobs, lives are on the line, until the airlines give them a fool proof system, mistakes will happen and in this day and age of technology with Wireless and Blu-Tooth connections, I still do not understand why this calculation are NOT automatic, so when the cargo is weighed, it will send the data to the aircraft, same as can be done the 'average' passenger weight and even the outside temperature - after all, this is NOT rocket science calculations, it is so basic...
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    That'd be a scary one.

    Hole in the side of the aircraft and decompression

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11583819
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    UAL35 Returns to SFO after experiencing mechanical problems

    Happened to be watching this flight. Have seen no news on this yet.
    Boeing 787 N27908 SFO to KIX returns to gate Sunday 2/7/16.
    http://www.flightradar24.com/data/ai...27908/#8c0f762
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    Egyptair airliner MSR181 is hijacked after leaving Alexandria and lands at Larnaca airport in Cyprus
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35915139

    UPDATE Egyptian aviation authority says hijacked flight has at least 55 passengers, 5 crew members onboard

    MSR181 - SU-GCB
    https://www.flightradar24.com/MSR181/93d5b9d
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    Plane Crashes Onto San Diego, California-Area Freeway, Killing 1, Injuring 5

    Aircraft has a history of mechanical problems and actually landing on the same stretch of highway.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ring-5-n549676

    One other interesting thing is that the FAA's website lists this A/C's registration expired in 2013.

    http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...Numbertxt=438Y

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