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    Feed options for depreciated windows feeder

    The following are tested alternatives for feeding if your receiver was a windows based setup

    TAKE NOTE:
    These instructions are not for the feint of heart. They are complex. They do involve some learning
    Some SBS Receivers are still NOT supported
    Raspberry PI + DVB Stick + PI24 although come with a cost. May be easier for some users

    Please request any assistance with issues following this guide here:
    https://forum.flightradar24.com/thre...ion-Assistance

    STEP (1) - Install Oracle VM on Windows Computer.
    Download page: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/s...ads/index.html
    Download & Install:
    1. Windows Installer
    2. Extension Pack (for USB 2.0 & 3.0 compatibility)

    STEP (2) - In the Oracle VM, install Linux "Debian Stretch with Raspberry Pi Desktop"
    Download page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/download...ry-pi-desktop/

    Instructions to configure Raspberrypi Desktop on OracleVM:
    https://thepi.io/how-to-run-raspberr...dows-or-macos/

    STEP (3) - To be able to give commands from Windows to Raspberrypi Desktop in VM
    You have to do two things:

    (a) In VM
    Settings >> Network, change default setting "NAT" to "Bridged".

    (b) Install PuTTY on Windows.
    https://www.putty.org

    STEP (4) - Attaching DVB-T to VM:
    When DVB-T is plugged into Windows Desktop, it remains available to Windows only.
    To enable Raspberrypi OS to use DVB-T, it should be attached to VM.
    Steps 1 to 7 in the two screenshots below show how to do it.

    VM USB -1.png . . VM USB -2.png

    You can check if DVB-T is attached by following command.
    Code:
    lsusb
    If DVB-T is attached to VM, the output of this command will show it, as in example below:
    Code:
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:2838 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL2838 DVB-T
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 80ee:0021 VirtualBox USB Tablet
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub



    STEP (5) - Installation of Flightradar24 Feeder
    (a) Install decoder dump1090 variant (for DVB-T only, not required for SBS and Beast)
    (b) Install fr24feed

    Please see next post for detailed instructions for decoder and feeder installation.
    Last edited by Oblivian; 2019-07-22 at 08:36.

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    Installation of fr24feed on Linux in VM on Windows Intel PC i386, i686, or x64_x86

    CAUTION: Do NOT use setting "Receiver DVB-T"
    The setting "Receiver = DVB-T" does NOT work on x64_86, i386 machines.
    Reason: The fr24feed supplied dump1090 fails to work on x64_86 and i386 machines.
    If you are using DVB-T stick, you must:
    (1) Use settings as shown in screenshot below
    (2) Install dump1090-mutability ver 1.15~dev as shown in STEP 1 below.

    FR24 settings - External dump1090 - BEAST-TCP.png


    STEP 1 - Install decoder dump1090-mutability ver 1.15~dev:
    NOTE: This decoder is required if your receiver is DVB-T stick.
    It is NOT required if you are using other receivers such as Mode S Beast or SBS.


    Code:
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install -y git build-essential debhelper rtl-sdr   
    sudo apt install -y librtlsdr-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev pkg-config   
    sudo apt install -y fakeroot curl cron lighttpd

    Code:
    sudo git clone -b unmaintained https://github.com/mutability/dump1090.git dump1090-1.15   
    cd dump1090-1.15   
    sudo dpkg-buildpackage -b
    The last command above will take some time to complete and generate lot of output.
    Please be patient and wait for process to complete.



    Code:
    cd ../
    sudo dpkg -i dump1090-mutability_1.15~dev_*.deb   
    
    sudo lighty-enable-mod dump1090   
    sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload 
    
    sudo wget -O /etc/udev/rules.d/rtl-sdr.rules "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/osmocom/rtl-sdr/master/rtl-sdr.rules" 
    
    sudo reboot

    Code:
    # To configure/reconfigure 
    sudo dpkg-reconfigure dump1090-mutability

    STEP 2 - Install FR24 feeder:
    Find your fr24 key from windows feeder's file fr24feed.ini
    This file is located in folder "fr24feed_win32"

    VM - FR24 ini - 1.png


    OPTION-1:
    Installing fr24feed Using debian package for RPi:
    "fr24feed_1.0.23-8_armhf.deb"


    SBS user should use only this option
    DVB-T users can use any one of Alternaives A or B


    Code:
    # Add architecture armhf to use RPi armhf package on i386 / i686 / x86_64 PC:
    sudo dpkg --add-architecture armhf
    sudo apt update
    
    # Install dependencies
    sudo apt install gcc-6-base:armhf libc6:armhf libgcc1:armhf libstdc++6:armhf  
    
    # Download fr24feed armhf.deb package and install it on i386 / x86_64 PC
    wget -O fr24feed_1.0.23-8_armhf.deb http://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/rpi_binaries/fr24feed_1.0.23-8_armhf.deb
    sudo dpkg -i fr24feed_1.0.23-8_armhf.deb
    
    # Signup and configure receiver
    sudo fr24feed --signup
    
    sudo systemctl restart fr24feed
    
    fr24feed-status

    OPTION-2:
    Installing fr24feed Using debian package for i386:
    "fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb"

    Code:
    
    
    #Check your machine's architecture by command below:
    uname -m
    
    # If command "uname -m" outputs "x86_64", then give following two commands
    sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
    sudo apt install libc6:i386 libudev1:i386 zlib1g:i386 libusb-1.0-0:i386 libstdc++6:i386 dirmngr   
    
    
    # If command "uname -m" does NOT output "x86_64", then give following command
    sudo apt install libc6 libudev1 zlib1g libusb-1.0-0 libstdc++6 dirmngr  
    
    #Download fr24feeder .deb file on Linux OS by command below:
    wget https://repo-feed.flightradar24.com/linux_x86_binaries/fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb  
    
    # Install the downloaded fr24feed  
    sudo dpkg -i fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb  
    
    # Signup and configure receiver
    sudo fr24feed --signup
    
    sudo systemctl restart fr24feed
    
    fr24feed-status

    OPTION-3:
    Installing fr24feed Using Linux Binary "fr24feed_1.0.18-5_amd64.tgz"

    CLICK HERE

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    Last edited by abcd567; 2019-10-15 at 17:48.

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    I did everything as you instructed but get "Online - no data" at FR24 status page. Also if I close VM all installation is lost?

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    Broken off to keep announcement thread just that.

    I've also added some details for sbs/beast USB to direct RPi

    https://forum.flightradar24.com/thre...l=1#post116906

    I fear giving too many options is going to bring another layer of issues and tricks to get around that won't be officially supported.

    Already seeing users now alerted to its demise with low post count attempt and create new 'help me' threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivian View Post
    I fear giving too many options is going to bring another layer of issues and tricks to get around that won't be officially supported.

    Already seeing users now alerted to its demise with low post count attempt and create new 'help me' threads.
    Unsupported options going forward will multiply. Some people will like their own flavour of Linux, some will use VM/Virtual or alike.

    I surprised no-one has thought about a clean install of x86 linux yet

    Others will just walk away or not even notice/care it is no longer working.

    The low post count users have only come out of the woodwork since FR24 has told them "What has worked for you for a long time without touching it, is going to end very soon"

    Serious thought about ending Windows Feeding v Multiple non standard installs = Causing more issues, is going to be a nightmare for FR24 moving forward.

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    A user has added a couple of raw Linux install instructions. So that's an option already

    The downside to the email going out is users wanting the quickest assistance possible, (just like when the major update broke everyones installs) that often means turning to the online community rather than the official email channel

    The downside, is the support team don't seem to frequent enough to fill in the blanks and shortfalls and dodge that bullet.

    Which leaves the remainder small select group of tester/tinker users to try work around all and sundry of setups. Which although may work and be more efficient, piles quite a load on to keep on-top of things :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
    I surprised no-one has thought about a clean install of x86 linux yet
    I not only thought about it, but have implemented it on my Desktop running Windows by creating a "Dual Boot" system.
    The HD has 2 partitions, one (NTFS) for Windows 8.1, other (ext4 + Linux Swap) for Ubuntu 18.04. At powerup, I can choose which OS I want to boot into.

    I have installed dump1090-mutability and fr24feed on Ubuntu exactly as shown in my Post #2 above, except of course the step "(1) Install Linux OS Raspbain in Oracle VM on Windows".

    Another option is to totally remove Windows by formating the HD and install Linux OS ONLY. I doubt any one will agree to loose Windows.

    Another option is to install Linux on USB flash Pendrive, and at boot choose to boot from Pendrive. This way no changes are made to HD or Windows.
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    My largest concern, is all these alternates. While working for you with DVBT - May not be any good for SBS users (without modesmixer etc).

    The focus (even mentioned on the feed download page) is on DVBT.

    It needed 19-5 and above to recognise the data format from memory. And the compiled versions/OSX are well before that. Windows was brought up past it as most SBS users are using windows.

    # fr24feed changelog
    All notable changes to Flightradar24 feeder software will be documented in this file.

    The format is based on [Keep a Changelog](http://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/).

    # [1.0.23-8] - 2018-10-11
    ## Changed
    - Larger and configurable timeout for HTTP/HTTPS requests

    # [1.0.23-7] - 2018-09-28

    # [1.0.23-6] - 2018-09-26

    # [1.0.23-5] - 2018-09-14

    # [1.0.23-4] - 2018-09-10

    # [1.0.23-3] - 2018-09-07

    # [1.0.23-2] - 2018-09-07

    # [1.0.23-1] - 2018-09-04

    # [1.0.22-2] - 2018-08-29

    # [1.0.22-1] - 2018-08-23

    # [1.0.21-1] - 2018-08-15

    ## Removed
    - Windows builds


    # [1.0.20-1] - 2018-07-27

    ## Removed
    - OSX builds


    # [1.0.19-15] - 2018-02-06

    ## Changed
    - do not use jQuery on the web interface :8754 [all platforms]

    ## [1.0.19-13] - 2018-02-01

    ## [1.0.19-12] - 2018-01-31
    ### Changed
    - use dark theme for web interface on port :8754 to better fit in display on boot [all platforms]

    ## [1.0.19-11] - 2018-01-29

    ### Added
    - OS version reporting for statistics purposes [all platforms]

    ## [1.0.19-8] - 2018-01-25

    ## [1.0.19-6] - 2018-01-23

    ## [1.0.19-5] - 2018-01-19

    ### Fixed
    - fixed a bug leading to no decoded callsigns in DF17 frames [all platforms]
    - SBS-3 messages were lost during decoding, resolved now [all platforms]
    - when specifying domain instead of IP for network data source, IP was resolved in the wrong byte order, fixed [all platforms]
    - fixed ARM64 SIGILL failures [debian ARM64]
    - fixed incorrect autoupdate detection in logs [debian ARM]
    Last edited by Oblivian; 2019-03-24 at 02:31.
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    My recommendation:

    "The best option when Windows feeder is discontinued is to migrate to Raspberry Pi"

    I have reached above conclusion after:
    (1) Using two Raspberry Pi stations running continously since 2015 (4 years experience)
    (2) During last one year, have successfully experimented with following arrangements on my Windows Desktop (Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8400 @3.00Ghz, RAM 8.00 GB, 64-bit Operating System, x64-based Processor)

    • Windows 8.1, with "fr24feed_win32_1.0.19-15"
    • Linux (Ubuntu 18.04) installed on PC's Hard Drive (Windows/Ubuntu Dual Boot), with "fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb"
    • Linux (Ubuntu 18.04, Debian 9.5 & Raspbian x86) in Oracle VM on Windows, with "fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb"
    • Boot from USB Flash Pendrive on which Linux (Raspbian x86, Linux Lite, BionicDog, StretchDog) was installed, with "fr24feed_1.0.18-5_i386.deb"



    Cost Comparison: Windows Desktop vs Raspberry Pi

    Windows Desktop Raspberry Pi
    Power Consumption 100W 5W
    Power/Year 24 x 365 x 100W
    = 876,000 Whr
    = 876 kWhr
    24 x 365 x 5W
    = 43,800 Whr
    = 43.8 kWhr
    Cost/kWhr $0.10 $0.10
    Total Cost /Yr 876 kWhr x $0.10
    = $87.60
    43.8 kWhr x $0.10
    = $4.38

    Electric Bill savings / Yr = $87.60 - $4.38 = $83.22

    Cost of Raspberry Pi 3 B+, microSD card, Plastic Case, and Power Supply 5V 3A = $65

    Cost recovered in less than one year due to savings in Electricity bill.

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    Last edited by abcd567; 2019-03-24 at 07:38.

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    For us non-Linux gurus, can you give a step by step to configure and use a SBS receiver, via network?
    Currently I run Basestation and PlanePlotter on a PC. I'd like the RPi to either get data direct from the SBS or via Basestation.

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