Want to feed FR24 with FA Flightfeeder

[NetRanger]

Hi everyone,I recently set up a fa flightfeeder and it's working fairly well.I would like to feed FR24 with it as well,but after a week of trawling through forums i can't seem to be able to find a tutorial on how to do this.I could set up a pi on a separate antenna but I would much rather just use the flightfeeder.Fa has no problem with me feeding other sites.If anyone can help walk me through this that would be awesome,thanks.

[abcd567]

Is the Flightfeeder loaned to you by Flightaware or you have purchased it? If loaned, you may not have permission to install or modify software on it. If purchased, may be you can install software on it. Please check Flightaware Support.

If allowed, SSH into Flightfeeder and install a software using root previlage (sudo). Try to install FR24 feeder using following command:

sudo bash -c "$(wget -O - http://repo.feed.flightradar24.com/install_fr24_rpi.sh)"

If successful, you have to configure it for receiver type ModeSBeast, and Host/IP 127.0.0.1, Port 30005

EDIT
Installation of FR24 datafeeder on Flightfeeder is not permitted by Flightaware. Please see my post below.

[Oblivian]

We are always trying to improve information so such things are obvious.

Can you advise what forum area/terms you used to not find it?

As there are a multitude of stickies and or informative ones with above install command

The share your data, and feeder download areas of the site also

https://www.flightradar24.com/share-your-data

And the feeder section of the forum:

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/11137-How-to-Feed-Data-to-Multiple-Sites-A-Brief-Guide

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/8908-New-Flightradar24-feeding-software-for-Raspberry-Pie

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/8591-Raspberry-Pi-How-To-Install-Raspian-OS-Dump1090-FR24-Data-Feeder

[abcd567]

Just now checked Flightaware, found modification of Flightfeeder software is not permitted. From terms of agreement:

"I understand that the FlightFeeder equipment is the property of FlightAware and I will not modify the hardware or softwarre."

The option left now is to purchase a Raspberry Pi, and install FR24 feeder on RPi. Please see this post for configuration:

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/10926-Feeding-FR24-with-raspberry-PI-from-data-over-network?p=89315&viewfull=1#post89315

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[Oblivian]

Just now checked Flightaware, found modification of Flightfeeder software is not permitted. From terms of agreement:

"I understand that the FlightFeeder equipment is the property of FlightAware and I will not modify the hardware or softwarre."

The option left now is to purchase a Raspberry Pi, and install FR24 feeder on RPi. Please see this post for configuration:

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/10926-Feeding-FR24-with-raspberry-PI-from-data-over-network?p=89315&viewfull=1#post89315

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Believe that refers to the source code and or recompiling their edition. As

http://flightaware.com/adsb/faq#sharing

Can I share data from FlightFeeder with other sites? (Back to top)

Sure! FlightAware encourages the sharing of all available ADS-B data for maximum collaboration and sharing within the community.

[NetRanger]

Thanks for the info,the only reason id like to use the fa feeder is that the antenna was professionally installed 9 metres above the roof at a huge cost,and if I go the pi route,the antenna for that will be a lot lower.I am not computer savvy at all so i think i'll just put up a separate setup for fr 24.Thanks again for the info.

[NetRanger]

Hi Oblivian,yes there are heaps of instructions but none pacific about what to do to install the feeder onto the fa flightfeeder. For example,do i just add the fr24 install straight onto the existing memory stick of the fa feeder or do i have to do something else ?
Not to worry,i'll just set up a pi and go from there.Thanks for the reply.

[Oblivian]

Hi Oblivian,yes there are heaps of instructions but none pacific about what to do to install the feeder onto the fa flightfeeder. For example,do i just add the fr24 install straight onto the existing memory stick of the fa feeder or do i have to do something else ?
Not to worry,i'll just set up a pi and go from there.Thanks for the reply.

Much like the setup process of FAs product, if you installed Pi42 it would over-write the entire card.

But if you run the command from the 'contribute data' it runs a similar to FAs wizard and asks questions along the way, detecting the pre-existing software and simply complimenting.

[Anmer]

Believe that refers to the source code and or recompiling their edition. As

http://flightaware.com/adsb/faq#sharing

You can use the port data that's available from the FlightFeeder. But you're not allowed to add to or modify the software.

Can I access a streaming ADS-B data feed from FlightFeeder or PiAware?

Yes, FlightFeeders and PiAware supports TCP connections to the following ports for data access:

30002 for raw/unparsed messages in AVR format

30003 for parsed messages in BaseStation format

30005 for raw/unparsed messages in Beast binary format

30105 for multilateration results (only) in Beast binary format (for FlightFeeders, the device must be running 7.x or newer software)

30106 for multilateration results (only) in extended BaseStation format (for FlightFeeders, the device must be running 7.x or newer software)

[Oblivian]

Well thats not terribly clear. Given to do so you usually need to add some software, to utilise said ports.

Unless you specifically got windows editions of all the other suppliers and had 2x fulltime units.

[abcd567]

OPTION -1
Install FR24 Feeder directly on FA FlightFeeder's existing memory stick (if root privileges are available to enable install of FR24 Feeder)
This option is NOT feasible as Flightaware's terms & condition do not allow installation of FR24 data feeder software on Flightfeeder.

Commitment at the time of ordering a FlightFeeder:
"I understand that the FlightFeeder equipment is the property of FlightAware and I will not modify the hardware or software."





OPTION -2
Install FR24 Feeder on an RPi and get data from FA Flightfeeder on network.
This does NOT violate Flightaware's terms and conditions, and is a feasible solution.

Quote from Flightaware's Frequently Asked Questions:
"Can I share data from FlightFeeder with other sites?
Sure! FlightAware encourages the sharing of all available ADS-B data for maximum collaboration and sharing within the community."

[Anmer]

Well thats not terribly clear. Given to do so you usually need to add some software, to utilise said ports.

I think it's pretty clear:

1. You cannot add to or edit the FlightFeeder software.

2. Data is available on various ports in various formats.

3. This data can be used to share the FlightFeeder output with other sites.

How to share the data is up to the FlightFeeder host, provided it adheres to the terms of use.

[Oblivian]

I think it's pretty clear:

1. You cannot add to or edit the FlightFeeder software.

2. Data is available on various ports in various formats.

3. This data can be used to share the FlightFeeder output with other sites.

How to share the data is up to the FlightFeeder host, provided it adheres to the terms of use.

Teach me to copy/paste my sources from another existing thread searching where the OP couldn't find then

https://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/7718-Can-I-feed-data-from-FlightAware-receiver-to-flightradar?p=53825&viewfull=1#post53825ight=faq%23sharing

[abcd567]

Well thats not terribly clear. Given to do so you usually need to add some software, to utilise said ports.

Unless you specifically got windows editions of all the other suppliers and had 2x fulltime units.

To utilize data from FlightFeeder's Ports, no software is required to be added to Flightfeeder itself. The Flightfeeder is pre-configured to feed data over network.

The option-2 in my above post utilizes FF data WITHOUT doing anything to FF.

[Oblivian]

To utilize data from FlightFeeder's Ports, no software is required to be added to Flightfeeder itself. The Flightfeeder is pre-configured to feed data over network.

The option-2 in my above post utilizes FF data WITHOUT doing anything to FF.

Yes, but going by their agreement. To even think of adding to it is a no-no, So a 2nd device is required regardless to attach via IP.