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    Trial Run Results for Three Types of Whip Antennas

    Please scroll down to see the test result graphs at the bottom.

    (1) The three antennas under test were:
    • (a) Coiled Whip
      (b) Stock Whip
      (c) Optimized Whip


    (2) In order to minimize number of variables, only the removable parts of Whips were interchanged. All other hardware, location, and software/gain settings were identical. Even the same mag mount base & RG174 coax cable was used for all the three whips.

    (3) In order to be sure that results are not influenced due to fluctuation in traffic, test were conducted twice.
    • (a) First test between 2pm & 3 pm
      (b) Repeat test between 4pm & 5pm



    Photo 1 - Three Antennas


    Photo 2 - Test Setup


    Photos 3 & 4 - Results of First Test






    Photos 5 & 6 - Results of Repeat Test



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    So essentially, if you aren't using it for tv or any other frequency. Chop it!
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    very interesting, im going to try it

    just to get a more info... why a trimmed antenna works better? did you start cutting little and test?

    i found really interesting your tests and results. thanks for sharing with us!

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    Is the stock whip exactly 1/2 wavelength?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNJAMeindersma View Post
    Is the stock whip exactly 1/2 wavelength?
    Yes, it is 1/2 wavelength.

    The total length of whip is 115 mm removable part + 15 mm inside the base = 130 mm.
    The 1/2 wavelength at 1090 MHz is 138 mm.
    Therefore for all practical purposes, the stock whip is 1/2 wavelength.

    However the impedance of 1/2 wavelength whip, even with ground-plane enlarged, is several hundred ohms. This gies a poor impedance match with 75 input impedance of the receiver (db-t usb dongle) and SWR is higher than 2.5

    On the other hand, the impedance of 1/4 wavelength whip with ground-plane enlarged is between 50 and 75 ohms, and provides an almost perfect impedance match & SWR is 1.5 or less.

    This is the reason the whip chopped to 1/4 wavelength performs better than full length whip.
    Please note that 52 mm removable part + 15 mm inside base = 67 mm = 1/4 wavelength at 1090 MHz.

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    Last edited by abcd567; 2016-05-29 at 02:05.

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    So we may conclude; bigger is not always better. It's how you use your antenna.. :P XD haha

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    Hello all,

    I just registered a new account to let everyone know, that this is a genius idea. As I already ordered a new antenna yesterday, I gave it a try and cut the old indoors-antenna. Now lots and lots of planes show up and my range increased by about 30-40 nm.

    Thanks
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    @Ben311

    Hello Ben
    There is another step to further improve: Enlarge the tiny ground plane provided by the 1 inch (25mm) dia mag mount base by placing it over a metallic surface like a metallic sheet, plate or a can.

    Please see the following thread which demonstrates the boost when antanna was placed over a metallic surface (a food can), compared to when it was placed over a non metallic surface (inverted glass).

    Trial Run Results for Four Sizes of Ground Planes

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    Great info abcd567, i will try this with my old antenna
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    Thank you for this great and easy to realize idea!

    But before I cut my antenna allow one question:
    If 1/2 wavelenght for 1090 MHz is 138 mm and I want my antenna to be 1/4 weavelenght (=69 mm) why should I make the cut at 67 mm (15 mm base + 52 mm whip)?

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