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  • #46
    Hi there, I'm a newbie but I've been following (nearly) all the posts along the way.

    I found out that there is actually a way to identify where in the world your tomnod map is: replace "challenge" in the url with "api". This will give you a page containin the latitude and longitude. Then try a site like http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html to see where this is.

    I agree with other tomnod comments about having the ability to see where you are looking. I think crowdsourcing is a great tool but its limitations are very frustrating and it should be exploited much further, in several ways:

    1. on the overview tile, colour each tile according to how many views they have had (grayscale perhaps).. then users can seek out tiles with few views.

    2. show a small image of where the overview tile is in the world.

    3. persuade other satellite imaging companies to contribute to the images so that much more ground can be covered.

    4. get some image recognition going: machine learning/algorithms.

    5. promote, promote, promote, via the hundreds of otherwise pointless articles written every day. Even my tech-savvy, software engineer husband hadn't heard of tomnod .


    Apologies for any naive assumptions these suggestions contain.

    It's all so frustrating.

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    • #47
      Container Ship where ?

      Originally posted by whatsgoingonhere View Post
      Ok, I've managed to be able to sign in to tomnod........finally and have tagged some things that look a little different in the water to me.

      These two maps definitely seem to have defined shapes.



      http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/2885
      Hello,

      Can anyone name or place this Container Ship that is ploughing through the area of debris ?

      Tomnod Sun3-16-2014 3.13 AM UTC.jpg


      I think that it cannot be in the area now being searched by the Australians. Note however the date is Sunday 16th March 2014 at 3.13 AM.

      So is this one of the set of recce pictures that includs the two shown on TV that are said to be possibly parts of MH370 ?

      Alex

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Alex Smart View Post
        Hello,

        Can anyone name or place this Container Ship that is ploughing through the area of debris ?

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]3648[/ATTACH]


        I think that it cannot be in the area now being searched by the Australians. Note however the date is Sunday 16th March 2014 at 3.13 AM.

        So is this one of the set of recce pictures that includs the two shown on TV that are said to be possibly parts of MH370 ?

        Alex
        Hi Alex,

        I think it's an area to the NE of Malaysia (IIRC) - see the tomnod homepage. Can be checked: see my post just above ^

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        • #49
          Tomnod's homepage shows zero images near Australia. I don't know anything about how how many satellities we have taking how many images of how many parts of the world but I think we could do so much more if newer and broader imaging from other sources could be contributed to tomnod's supply, for the purpose of search by crowdsourcing.

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          • #50
            MH370 Tomnod discussion

            Hi,
            tried to follow your instructions and failed. For example, after replacing "challenge" with "api" in http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ean/map/124050 (random selection) nothing changes((( What am I doing wrong?

            Originally posted by photoseal View Post
            Hi there, I'm a newbie but I've been following (nearly) all the posts along the way.

            I found out that there is actually a way to identify where in the world your tomnod map is: replace "challenge" in the url with "api". This will give you a page containin the latitude and longitude. Then try a site like http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html to see where this is.

            I agree with other tomnod comments about having the ability to see where you are looking. I think crowdsourcing is a great tool but its limitations are very frustrating and it should be exploited much further, in several ways:

            1. on the overview tile, colour each tile according to how many views they have had (grayscale perhaps).. then users can seek out tiles with few views.

            2. show a small image of where the overview tile is in the world.

            3. persuade other satellite imaging companies to contribute to the images so that much more ground can be covered.

            4. get some image recognition going: machine learning/algorithms.

            5. promote, promote, promote, via the hundreds of otherwise pointless articles written every day. Even my tech-savvy, software engineer husband hadn't heard of tomnod .


            Apologies for any naive assumptions these suggestions contain.

            It's all so frustrating.

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            • #51
              Hi again,

              there is some strange shapes on those maps :












              http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/4627 (round shape on the left)

              http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/5019 (long vertical shape on the right)

              **Earlier today I saw a shape that looked similar to an engine but didnt tag it,I'll try to find it and then post it,though in this case it would probably have sunk?


              is the map doing this strange texture or my computer?



              Now they are saying that Malasysian Airlines was carrying highly flammable lithium batteries.

              Last edited by Angie33; 2014-03-21, 22:09.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by julian View Post
                Hi,
                tried to follow your instructions and failed. For example, after replacing "challenge" with "api" in http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ean/map/124050 (random selection) nothing changes((( What am I doing wrong?
                Hi there,

                I've just tried it on this link http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/5191, so by replacing challenge with api I get this link http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/mh370_...ocean/map/5191. When I go to that address the details are contained in a single line of text at the top of a blank page. Hope this works for you. It may be that different areas need different parts of the url replacing (I just found this tip of a webpage I read somewhere)?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by julian View Post
                  Hi,
                  tried to follow your instructions and failed. For example, after replacing "challenge" with "api" in http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ean/map/124050 (random selection) nothing changes((( What am I doing wrong?
                  ... and I get this {"id":124050,"overlay_id":1293,"lat":4.544036,"lon ":90.661958,"status":1,"msg":"Retrieved map ID = 124050"}

                  on the page example you gave.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by photoseal View Post
                    I found out that there is actually a way to identify where in the world your tomnod map is: replace "challenge" in the url with "api". This will give you a page containin the latitude and longitude. Then try a site like http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html to see where this is.
                    Nice find! And it works.
                    E.g. original url being http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/5533
                    Doing the replace in the url http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/mh370_...ocean/map/5533
                    gives something like
                    {"id":5533,"overlay_id":1283,"lat":6.839044,"lon": 95.124514,"status":1,"msg":"Retrieved map ID = 5533"}
                    Tap lat and lon into http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html and you know where you are.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by jhmb View Post
                      Nice find! And it works.
                      E.g. original url being http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/5533
                      Doing the replace in the url http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/mh370_...ocean/map/5533
                      gives something like
                      {"id":5533,"overlay_id":1283,"lat":6.839044,"lon": 95.124514,"status":1,"msg":"Retrieved map ID = 5533"}
                      Tap lat and lon into http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html and you know where you are.
                      Glad it works

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by photoseal View Post
                        ... and I get this {"id":124050,"overlay_id":1293,"lat":4.544036,"lon ":90.661958,"status":1,"msg":"Retrieved map ID = 124050"}

                        on the page example you gave.
                        aha... got the same line, BUT: what exactly must be inserted into http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html? Not the whole line, right? Only which exactly parts? I am really slow today)))

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                        • #57
                          MH370 Tomnod discussion

                          Originally posted by jhmb View Post
                          Nice find! And it works.
                          E.g. original url being http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...ocean/map/5533
                          Doing the replace in the url http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/mh370_...ocean/map/5533
                          gives something like
                          {"id":5533,"overlay_id":1283,"lat":6.839044,"lon": 95.124514,"status":1,"msg":"Retrieved map ID = 5533"}
                          Tap lat and lon into http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html and you know where you are.
                          YES! LON numbers! Got it! Really great!!!!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by julian View Post
                            YES! LON numbers! Got it! Really great!!!!
                            Awesome

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by smay69 View Post
                              If they are suggesting that a fire was the cause of this and it actually incapacitated the crew, yet this fire did not cause the even MORE highly flammable jet fuel (understatement of the century) to explode for almost 8 hours... I mean that is a pretty darn improbable theory.
                              I know 98% of the time I dont trust completely what they say plus most of the time they dramatize things. But just wanted to update anyway.


                              In image the strange shapes I mentioned previously , Note: they appear bigger because I zoomed them,trying to find a shape similar to a turbine engine I saw earlier, anyway if I find any further strange shapes will post it.


                              objects-maps.jpg
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                              Last edited by Angie33; 2014-03-21, 22:56.

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                              • #60
                                Just found this not sure if any body has seen it before


                                seems to be a lot of trash in this area
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                                Last edited by MickMc; 2014-03-22, 05:40.

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