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  • Originally posted by peterhr View Post
    I'd stick it outside if possible - I posted some plots a little way back in this thread that show the sharp range cutoff from 300km to 50km cause where my antenna falls in the 'shadow' of the next door neighbours roof. One I get some new downfeed and time on a nice day to do it - I'll be lifting my mast by another 1.5m section. (I have wall mounted T & K brackets, holding 2 sections of Sectional Aluminium 20' Pole Mast Set - 4 x 5ft Swaged Pole Sections Slot 1.25" OD (32mm Diameter) - bought from Delcom Systems Ltd)
    Would the Antenna that adcd567 made be more for indoor use as except for the CoCo placed in PVC conduit i can't see how they could be put outside?

    Mike

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    • I believe adcd567 is one the 8th floor of a high-rise with no opening windows - so strictly indoors.

      we have had some discussions about PVC conduits - apparently the minerals used in the pigments to colour the PVC can attenuate the signals too - but it is what I have. The details for the coco can be found at http://www.balarad.net/ and there are youtube videos of the construction.

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      • Originally posted by peterhr View Post
        I believe adcd567 is one the 8th floor of a high-rise with no opening windows - so strictly indoors.

        we have had some discussions about PVC conduits - apparently the minerals used in the pigments to colour the PVC can attenuate the signals too - but it is what I have. The details for the coco can be found at http://www.balarad.net/ and there are youtube videos of the construction.
        I have my CoCo made already using the youtube video which was posted in this thread. I made it 9 sections at 11cm and 1 at 5.5cm. Should this be ok? Also what is the best way to terminate the top on the Antenna? I see some have it shorted and others don't?

        Mike

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        • Best termination is centre core with white insulation poking out 66mm as a 1/4 wave whip at the top of the coco. (outer sheath & braid stripped ... I think thats what your 5.5cm section is but it takes into consideration the velocity factor - which is not needed if it's just a whip antenna.
          Last edited by peterhr; 2013-12-02, 17:29.

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          • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
            I have my CoCo made already using the youtube video which was posted in this thread. I made it 9 sections at 11cm and 1 at 5.5cm. Should this be ok? Also what is the best way to terminate the top on the Antenna? I see some have it shorted and others don't?

            Mike
            Originally posted by peterhr View Post
            Best termination is centre core with white insulation poking out 66mm as a 1/4 wave whip at the top of the coco. (outer sheath & braid stripped ... I think thats what your 5.5cm section is but it takes into consideration the velocity factor - which is not needed if it's just a whip antenna.
            I have made both CoCos, the shorted one & the whipped one. The whipped one is exactly as described by peterhr. Please see the 4 coverage images wich have antenna details also, posted 2 days ago.

            If you are going to use Amplifier, shorted one will require an isolating capactor to be inserted between Amplifier & antena to prevent DC power supply short circuiting through antenna. I have once fried my power inserter when I forgot to insert the dc blocking capacitor



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            • Whipped sounds like the way to go. I will probably do testing with the Antenna in my attic before moving it outside. I have a weather station and my Anemometer is on a pole at roof level so i can utilize this in some way to place the Antenna on this pole. Excited now about getting my dongle and getting up and running

              Mike

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              • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                Whipped sounds like the way to go. I will probably do testing with the Antenna in my attic before moving it outside. I have a weather station and my Anemometer is on a pole at roof level so i can utilize this in some way to place the Antenna on this pole. Excited now about getting my dongle and getting up and running

                Mike
                Did you order "Power Inserter" when you ordered in-Line Amplifier? Or does the Amplifier package contains the power inserter?

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                • Originally posted by abcd567 View Post
                  Did you order "Power Inserter" when you ordered in-Line Amplifier? Or does the Amplifier package contains the power inserter?

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                  This is the link to the amp that i ordered. I didn't realise i also needed a "Power Inserter". Firstly will this amp do what i need it to do? Also could i have a link to a "Power Inserter" so i know exactly what to order.

                  http://www.tvtrade.ie/satellite-amplifier-16-20db.html

                  Mike
                  Last edited by mickopla; 2013-12-02, 19:56. Reason: double url

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                  • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                    This is the link to the amp that i ordered. I didn't realise i also needed a "Power Inserter". Firstly will this amp do what i need it to do? Also could i have a link to a "Power Inserter" so i know exactly what to order.

                    http://www.tvtrade.ie/satellite-amplifier-16-20db.html

                    Mike
                    Freq 450 to 2250 Mhz ok
                    Gain 16 to 20 dB ok
                    Seems u ordered right item.

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                    • Originally posted by abcd567 View Post
                      Freq 450 to 2250 Mhz ok
                      Gain 16 to 20 dB ok
                      Seems u ordered right item.

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                      So i also need a "Power Inserter" presumably i would need a power supply to run that?

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                      • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                        So i also need a "Power Inserter" presumably i would need a power supply to run that?
                        Yes, 230V AC (or whatever your mains voltage) to 14v -18v DC. Check DC voltage specified for your amplifier. Generally Satellite dishes use 14/18V DC, which is spplied by dish receiver. Our DVB-T Dongle does not supply DC power.

                        Links for power inserter:

                        1) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coaxial-DC...-/161121107526

                        2) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unbranded-...-/221318282241

                        3) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A1330-LINE...-/140977355168

                        4) http://www.amazon.co.uk/N-A-SATELLIT...qid=1385363589

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                        • Thanks for that abcd567. I ordered the one from Amazon. While i was there i had a quick search for an AC to DC 14v-18v adapter and they seem to be in short supply. Most of them just go to 12v. I did see one that goes to 24v but its close to 30 pounds. What is the most common one used by the guys in here?

                          Mike

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                          • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                            So i also need a "Power Inserter" presumably i would need a power supply to run that?
                            I just now saw the enlarged picture of Amplifier which shows 15V DC. I have downloaded the enlarged picture from seller's website & attaching it below:


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                            Last edited by abcd567; 2013-12-02, 21:28.

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                            • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                              Thanks for that abcd567. I ordered the one from Amazon. While i was there i had a quick search for an AC to DC 14v-18v adapter and they seem to be in short supply. Most of them just go to 12v. I did see one that goes to 24v but its close to 30 pounds. What is the most common one used by the guys in here?

                              Mike
                              There's a ton of 15vdc power supplies on ebay for around 5...500ma or more will do you, 1a seems the most common.

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                              • Originally posted by mickopla View Post
                                Thanks for that abcd567. I ordered the one from Amazon. While i was there i had a quick search for an AC to DC 14v-18v adapter and they seem to be in short supply. Most of them just go to 12v. I did see one that goes to 24v but its close to 30 pounds. What is the most common one used by the guys in here? Mike
                                Originally posted by Rooster View Post
                                There's a ton of 15vdc power supplies on ebay for around 5...500ma or more will do you, 1a seems the most common. Sent using Tapatalk from my ZX81
                                I have mentioned 14-18v as a general range as I did not know the voltage of the one purchased by mickopla. Latet I saw the product photo which shows 15V DC.

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