Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
NooElec with small antenna ---> FA Pro Stick + FA 1090 Antenna = worse results?
Collapse
X
-
Originally posted by klinquist View PostI ordered the FA 1090MHZ filter to put in front of the stick which should be here on Wed, I will update with those results.
On the other hand, if the BP filter in the Pro+ is after the LNA, it might help a bit to filter pre-LNA, even if the bandwidth is too wide.
Originally posted by klinquist View PostI do have quite a few Zigbee sensors around the house - 902-928mhz, perhaps those are interfering?
Leave a comment:
-
Thanks for all the replies!
I do have the blue stick - connected directly to the Pi. Pi is powered by a suitable high amperage power supply. The 16" cable between the pi and the antenna is a good quality one.
I ordered the FA 1090MHZ filter to put in front of the stick which should be here on Wed, I will update with those results. I do have quite a few Zigbee sensors around the house - 902-928mhz, perhaps those are interfering?
Anyway, if the FA filter helps out, maybe I'll invest in a better one.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by abcd567 View PostTEST-3: Flightaware Antenna and Pro Stick/ProStick Plus with Attenuators
Gain Setting throghout the experiment = 38.6 dB
Signal lost in the pads can never be recovered, where injected noise is roughly proportional to the gain you use plus a bit more, therefore all you will accomplish is to decrease your SNR.
If the problem is intermodulation noise, then use a decent, low-insertion loss bandpass filter before the first LNA rather than pads. Then set the gain to avoid overdriving anything.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by abcd567 View PostA Cavity filter will sure give precise and narrow band width, but cost $100 to $150
Doubtless you can spend hundreds on them, but the same goes for nearly anything.
Leave a comment:
-
TEST-3: Flightaware Antenna and Pro Stick/ProStick Plus with Attenuators
Gain Setting throghout the experiment = 38.6 dB
Leave a comment:
-
Flightaware antenna is a high gain antenna (6 dBi), while mag mount whip antenna supplied with DVB-T is a low gain (1.5 ~ 2 dBi)
The Flightaware antenna therefore picks much more Cell Phone signals, and overloads the rf preamp chip if a filter between antenna and ProStick is not used.
TEST-1: Comparison of Cantenna (Gain ~2 dBi) vs Flightaware Antenna (Gain 6 dBi) WITHOUT FILTER and with Generic DVB-T
.
TEST-2: Comparison of a Spider Antenna (Gain ~2 dBi), and Flightaware antenna (Gain 6 dBi) With ProStick/ProStick Plus
Leave a comment:
-
LC FILTER SCHAMETICS
UNBALANCED LC LADDER
BALANCED LC LADDER
FLIGHTAWARE FILTER INSIDE
HUNGARIAN FILTER WITH TAI-SAW CHIP
US $19.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/112472645896
CHINESE FILTER
US $28.95 http://www.ebay.com/itm/331993013752
Passband : 1086 ~ 1094 MHz (Not mentioned what type of filter is inside. Seems to be a TAI-SAW Chip, but not sure.)
TAI-SAW FILTER CHIP
Leave a comment:
-
Have you tried the Pro Stick with your previous antenna and vice versa? The existing DVB-T "dongle" with the FlightAware antenna?
You don't mention what coax cable you're using?
Leave a comment:
-
The Flightaware stand alone filter is an LC filter.
The Pro Stick + (Blue) has an integral SAW filter.
A Cavity filter will sure give precise and narrow band width, but cost $100 to $150(6 to 10 times the cost of LC or SAW filter).
In my case, Flightaware's $15.50 LC filter did the job well.
In few very severe noisy location, a costly cavity filter may needed. On ebay 1090 Mhz SAW filter are available for around $20, and may be good, but I did not try these.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Anmer View PostStrange, all I can see is:
Flightaware Pro Stick USB ADS-B receiver dongle which includes an internal 1090 MHZ band pass filter
Leave a comment:
-
Or just buy a separate cavity or SAW filter, which you get to choose, that has narrower bandwidth and higher order to knock out adjacent GSM signals.
And I'd say that FA's BP filter is a poor choice, even if it is a SAW filter. If you look at this frequency response plot (bottom of page), you'll see that it has a bandwidth of about 300 MHz beginning somewhere in the range of 930–950 MHz. That's going to pass a lot of GSM, so it's pretty useless.
See also this analysis (scroll to bottom) and this test.
In general, discrete filters cost a lot more, but you get what you pay for.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Strix technica View PostI suspected as much (re placement).
(1) Adding 2nd SAW filter between antenna input and rf pre-amplifier (extra cost)
(2) Relocating existing SAW filter from current location (between rf pre-amp and tuner), to new location (antenna input connector and rf pre-amp).
I have made these suggestions in Flight aware forums recently.
.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by abcd567 View PostThe Pro Stick Plus has an integral SAW filter, which is located between front-end rf amplifier chip and the tuner chip.
Originally posted by abcd567 View PostThe solution to this problem is simple: add a filter between antenna and Pro Stick Plus. Flight aware filter is now available at Amazon.com at US $15.50
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010GBQXK8
Even taken at face value, 980 MHz is uncomfortably close to the upper edge of the GSM900 band, so it probably isn't adequate for GSM950. I don't know what the actual bandwidth of ADS-B is, but it can't be much more than 1–2 MHz so something with 70 MHz bandwidth is absurdly broad for this application.Last edited by Strix technica; 2017-07-14, 22:43.
Leave a comment:
Leave a comment: