T-XXXX or F-XXXX

[Anmer]

I have been observing the feeding system for a long time now and I think that KCHS1 is absolutely right.
So, yes, I think despite all the efforts to set-up the radar and a 24/7 activity F-XXXX radars are highly prioritized.

This topic has been discussed more times than I can remember (and I joined this forum at the very beginning).

The radar "label" has absolutely no relevance to the data that's being received and used to track a flight.

As long as flights are being shown on FR24 (unless they're blocked for a reason) and your feed is recognised with a free Business subscription, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this.

[perseus68]

So it seems to me I'm wasting my time feeding, looks like the F-KCHS1 is taking priority, and my T-KCHS1 does not show up at all, and I think I have greater range than the guy using F- I'm seeing aircraft farther then the F- but it looks like F-takes priority...

I have been observing the feeding system for a long time now and I think that KCHS1 is absolutely right.
In my case I have a T-XXXX radar with a max range of 290-330nm (very good diy antenna indeed) and my daily rate of positions sent to FR24 is in the range 55K-65K.
If the T-XXXX and F-XXXX radars would have the same probability to be shown, then when you click on a plane and you do it tens of times, in 50% of the cases you should see the plane followed by T-XXXX and in the other 50% by a F-XXXX.

It almost never happens to me to see that my radar is tracking one of the planes approaching my local airport, nor planes flying around the island where I live.
The advantage here is that in our small island there are just three F-XXXX radars and two T-XXXX ones.
So itīs easy to see which one is doing the job.
So, yes, I think despite all the efforts to set-up the radar and a 24/7 activity F-XXXX radars are highly prioritized.

[speedbird1960]

So it seems to me I'm wasting my time feeding, looks like the F-KCHS1 is taking priority, and my T-KCHS1 does not show up at all, and I think I have greater range than the guy using F- I'm seeing aircraft farther then the F- but it looks like F-takes priority...

Also to add to what Jarod has said, we still need T-XXXX Feeders even if they don't show.

A good example of why, is several days ago four F-XXXX Feeders went offline for a few hours each, two of them where Dublin Feeders, two of them where North West England and if it had not been T-XXXX Feeders the coverage would have been very poor.
So T-XXXX Feeders are very important to Flightradar24.

[Jarod]

So it seems to me I'm wasting my time feeding, looks like the F-KCHS1 is taking priority, and my T-KCHS1 does not show up at all, and I think I have greater range than the guy using F- I'm seeing aircraft farther then the F- but it looks like F-takes priority...

1: it's never a waste, you can also watch your own traffic via virtual radar server and feeding is only 1 extra program.
2: if you have greater range, those aircraft flying at that range should be picked up then.
3: i have tested a new fr24 receiver and a rtlsdr mini+adsb# at the same time. Both were picking up different signals, but there is no "faster" receiver, especially with ADSB#.
4: extra benefit with T- feeders is that you get ground signals. Like cars driving on the roads on their way to and from the airport. Airport vehicles that is.

And you get premium of course!

[KCHS1]

So it seems to me I'm wasting my time feeding, looks like the F-KCHS1 is taking priority, and my T-KCHS1 does not show up at all, and I think I have greater range than the guy using F- I'm seeing aircraft farther then the F- but it looks like F-takes priority...

[peterhr]

Please read this post:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...ll=1#post18371

looking at that post it includes
This is how database looks like

344285	N-LIRP1	VLG6770	25825	43.8707427978516	8.4154634475708	456	114	EC-LQN	4655	0	2012-06-20 12:12:24	A320	BCN	PSA	VY6770	1340187144	0
4004BC	N-EHAM1	MON634	33025	52.65673828125	3.52378845214844	482	101	G-OJMR	0337	0	2012-06-20 12:12:24	A30B	MAN	PFO	ZB634	1340187144	0
4CA5C8	N-EIWF1	EIN846	8225	51.8486480712891	-8.28280067443848	278	61	EI-DVE	0000	0	2012-06-20 12:12:24	A320	ORK	BRU	EI846	1340187144	0
484057	T-UNTT1	KLM892	34000	53.3820991516113	83.3296813964844	490	292	PH-BFO	0000	0	2012-06-20 12:12:23	B744	CTU	AMS	KL892	1340187142	0
4A80D4	N-ESMS1	SAS1767	40975	55.8499145507812	17.4958934783936	443	179	SE-DTH	7331	0	2012-06-20 12:12:24	B736	ARN	PRG	SK1767	1340187144	0

The data includes one (or more) Date + Time fields, is that the UTC time the data burst was transmitted from the aircraft and / or the time when the data was added to the database.

it also says

Aircraft shown on map

I have tried to explain this several times, and I really don't know how to explain this. I will make
another try. Lets assume we have 5 feeders in London. L1 L2 L3 L4 L5.

All 5 feeders sees BAW123 and uploads the aircraft to the server

L1 uploads at 12:34:50 and database is updated with L1 data + L1 radar code.
L2 uploads at 12:34:51 and database is updated with L2 data + L2 radar code.
L3 uploads at 12:34:52 and database is updated with L3 data + L3 radar code.
L4 uploads at 12:34:53 and database is updated with L4 data + L4 radar code.
L5 uploads at 12:34:54 and database is updated with L5 data + L5 radar code.

Does that mean it's the slowest feeder that's shown, not the fastest?

[Amper]

Not sure about that Jarod... but possible

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[FR24support]

Please read this post:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/3566-FR24feed-software-(The-ONLY-windows-feeder-software-thread!)?p=18371&viewfull=1#post18371

[Jarod]

When you filter and select radar, there is a list of site, I see F-KCHS1, and several T's but my feed isnt listed

That i don't know. My radar isn't always listed too....sometime is and sometime...like just now isn't

The Radar is only listed as Filter when it's actually receiving anything. And shows up on the fr24 website.
A page refresh when you are sure your radar is used will make it show up.

[FR24support]

You can easily check your feeds and current status in your Premium accounts.

[Oblivian]

F- feeders are VERY fast, and the data often timestamped better via GPS than NTP lookup. The server will use this data as it will appear to be earlier than your own in some cases. THe filter is dynamic, it will only show the current active data being seen at that time.

[Amper]

That i don't know. My radar isn't always listed too....sometime is and sometime...like just now isn't

[KCHS1]

what list?

When you filter and select radar, there is a list of site, I see F-KCHS1, and several T's but my feed isnt listed

[Amper]

Thanks, missed that link...

Does it take a while for my feed to show on the radar list??

what list?

[KCHS1]

You are T radar, F radar is fr24 box somewhere near you
you are both KCHS1. He is F-KCHS1 and you are T-KCHS1

More info here http://forum.flightradar24.com/threa...ghlight=F-XXXX

Thanks, missed that link...

Does it take a while for my feed to show on the radar list??