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    e.g. CMB1542 inflight right now ( 12:18 UTC ) shows nothing on the flight archive page:

    CMB1542 archive

    but since I know the a/c I can go to the a/c archive page and replay any CMB flights it has operated.

    Flights operated by N271WA

    Possibly because the ICAO designator was reallocated from COPA some time ago?

    Not just this flight, all CMB flights seem broken.
    Last edited by mimku; 2013-05-22, 12:31. Reason: added link for active flight

  • #2
    Originally posted by mimku View Post
    e.g. CMB1542 inflight right now ( 12:18 UTC ) shows nothing on the flight archive page:

    CMB1542 archive

    but since I know the a/c I can go to the a/c archive page and replay any CMB flights it has operated.

    Flights operated by N271WA

    Possibly because the ICAO designator was reallocated from COPA some time ago?

    Not just this flight, all CMB flights seem broken.
    This may be due to the fact that 'CMB' flights are charter flights and not RPT (Regular Passenger Transport) flights.

    Regards,
    Gregg
    YSSY2/T-YSSY4 [SBS-1 Basestation w/- SSE-1090 SJ Mk2 Antenna (Thanks Delcomp) ] [Uniden UBCD996T w/- 16 element Wideband Discone VHF/UHF Antenna, and tuned 108MHz-137MHz Airband Antenna] [Trialing a home-brew 1090MHz collinear antenna]

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fungus View Post
      This may be due to the fact that 'CMB' flights are charter flights and not RPT (Regular Passenger Transport) flights.
      Thanks Gregg, in the absence of any other theories I'll go with that

      Though it seems odd that FR24 can't key into the database with a charter flight code.

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      • #4
        Looks like Atlas Air ( GTI ) flights are also affected in the same way. For example, the page for a/c N412MC lists lots of replayable flights:

        http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/n412mc

        but if you try to access one of those flights in the database there is just a blank list:

        http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/gti301
        http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/gti402
        http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/gti0602

        Affects flights with and without known / filed end points.

        Other chartered flights are available that way:

        http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/woa3531


        Most odd

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        • #5
          Only one of the routes / flights you have quoted are in the Database and by default if no route is in the Database it will only show the Flight number:

          http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/5y301

          Charter / Cargo Flights often change from week to week and are more difficult to keep updated than Scheduled Flights, this is why there are less of them in the Database .
          AMS Daily Fight Information: http://schiphol.dutchplanespotters.nl/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by speedbird1960 View Post
            Only one of the routes / flights you have quoted are in the Database.
            But they all exist in the system.. I can replay each and every one of them.

            So are you saying that if the end point(s) of a recorded flight weren't declared then they can only be found and played-back though the aircraft page?

            Thanks,

            AB

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            • #7
              OK, upon reflection I think what is being stated is that FR24 can't log flights unless someone has defined a route for that flight code.

              Assuming that it's too late in the implementation to change that rather odd particular point of design, what about automatically defining routes with NULL end points for any new flight codes?

              Then one could search for GTI402 ( not 5Y402, Atlas don't use the IATA assignment* ) and find all the flights that used that code regardless of end points.

              * correction, they do actually use 5Y in their HFDL messages but stick to GTI on ADS-B.
              Last edited by mimku; 2013-06-01, 11:53.

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              • #8
                Yes, they are on Playback but if you take this Flight for instance "GTI402 seen @ 2013-05-17 16:23 UTC on route from BKW to STN"(The Route shown has been self populated by the server and is wrong.) on this page: http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/n412mc there is no Route shown on the Mini Map when in Playback, so if you click on GTI402 just below the photo no Route will be shown as its not in the Database.

                5Y is the correct IATA for Atlas Air: http://www.airframes.org/fleet/gti
                Last edited by speedbird1960; 2013-06-01, 12:27.
                AMS Daily Fight Information: http://schiphol.dutchplanespotters.nl/

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