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  • #16
    Originally posted by Graham C View Post
    As a result, it will lead to less data being provided to them free of charge by windows OS users who don't want to, can't afford to or just can't be bothered to switch from perfectly sound installations based on Windows to a differant set-up just to provide free data to FR24 who aim to make a profit from that data. Switching off the windows feed will lead to a reduce level of coverage, which will lead to less use of FR24 in favour of other flight tracking websites that support a windows based feed, which will lead to a reduction in browser traffic onto the FR24 site which will eventually lead to less profit from the advertising. A classic own goal.
    Yes - interesting that the email I got from FR24 about this was put into the spam folder by Hotmail. For Hotmail to do that must mean it had seen a very large number going through its system I'd suspect.

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    • #17
      I am just a plug and play type of user using SBS. Raspberry to me is just fruit and I would have no idea how to begin changing my system. The set up I have currently works very well for me and I would not contemplate changing it in any way. I would not underestimate how many providers are as PC illiterate as myself.
      No mention has been made of it but I presume those loyal providers who are turned off on the 1st May will no longer enjoy a Business subscription.

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      • #18
        Oh well, I guess I may as well switch it off now then.
        I've been feeding to FR24 since 2011 using my SBS-1 connected to a dedicated PC which runs a total of 15 programs to supply my weather website, as well as FR24.
        I've no intention of buying a RPi or any other kit and I haven't seen any attempt to investigate or explain why Windows, or the FR24 Windows Feeder App, is more prone to being glitchy.

        If you've decided to take it down then it may be an idea to remove it as an option on here: https://www.flightradar24.com/share-your-data

        I wish you all the best, T-EGEO2 signing off.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FlyingAnt View Post
          No mention has been made of it but I presume those loyal providers who are turned off on the 1st May will no longer enjoy a Business subscription.
          As things currently stand, if one isn't feeding data the free Business subscription will lapse.

          I've been feeding FR24 for 10 years. I suppose all good things must come to an end.
          Mike


          www.radarspotting.com

          Radarspotting since 2005

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          • #20
            So it looks like "hey old users, we think that Business subscription is too expensive to give it for free so bye-bye"
            What the difference if my comp running Windows, OS X or Linux or if it's Raspberry PI if data is fed through same antennae and same usb stick as a receiver?

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            • #21
              I am not sure of the real reason for FR24 to discontinue Windows feed, but one reason seems to be there: whenever Windows10 updates, it replaces dvb-t's custom driver "zadig" by Microsoft's generic driver, forcing users to reinstall "zadig" after updates of Win10.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by abcd567 View Post
                I am not sure of the real reason for FR24 to discontinue Windows feed, but one reason seems to be there: whenever Windows10 updates, it replaces dvb-t's custom driver "zadig" by Microsoft's generic driver, forcing users to reinstall "zadig" after updates of Win10.
                Only on major updates ant it's probably 5-6 times a year.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by abcd567 View Post
                  I am not sure of the real reason for FR24 to discontinue Windows feed, but one reason seems to be there: whenever Windows10 updates, it replaces dvb-t's custom driver "zadig" by Microsoft's generic driver, forcing users to reinstall "zadig" after updates of Win10.
                  My guess is most Windows feeders are using Kinetic and other specialist receivers and not an SDR/DVB-T needing Zadig drivers.
                  Mike


                  www.radarspotting.com

                  Radarspotting since 2005

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                  • #24
                    Just include the steps to Block Driver Updates for Specific Device Using Registry Editor for the device ID. Problem solved.

                    https://www.maketecheasier.com/block...ces-windows10/

                    People have doing this for years when they have legacy devices that are not really supported by Windows 10 and have driver update issues.

                    As the Discontinue of Windows Support....

                    I'm not going to spend $100AU to buy a PI.

                    If the Linux Version works, I have more old laptops in the cupboards that *may* be resourced, but I'm not spending more money that could be used for some like, oh, a better Antenna, Coax etc.
                    Last edited by Asuka; 2019-03-23, 18:05.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by abcd567 View Post
                      I am not sure of the real reason for FR24 to discontinue Windows feed, but one reason seems to be there: whenever Windows10 updates, it replaces dvb-t's custom driver "zadig" by Microsoft's generic driver, forcing users to reinstall "zadig" after updates of Win10.
                      If i were to hazard a guess: Too many people somehow feeding their VRS output or in some other way feeding bad / recombined data.

                      While all that is not really Windows specific, it is rare for someone running VRS to feed that via a Raspberry Pi.

                      Getting an official statement instead of speculation would be helpful though.
                      Last edited by wiedehopf; 2019-03-23, 19:06.

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                      • #26
                        Bumped a few options given to their own location to keep this on the notification itself

                        https://forum.flightradar24.com/thre...windows-feeder
                        Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                        • #27
                          A how-to for Linux & SBS would be nice?
                          Can someone please supply

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by vk6xlr View Post
                            A how-to for Linux & SBS would be nice?
                            Can someone please supply
                            I'd start searching linux and wine in available ADS-B forums, as I have been already. Problem is hardware and software options will be so varied that one size will not fit all. Of course the other thing to consider is how important is FR24 to you and can you get what you need from alternative sites? I'm primarily interested in the traffic I can see in WA and surrounds. FR24 is mainly handy when I travel away.

                            -.... -.-. .-.

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                            • #29
                              I am relatively new to the "feeder" world. I applied for a feeder station and am waiting to hear if I am accepted.

                              Using existing hardware available I built a test setup - a WIN7 mini computer and an existing NooElec USB receiver (I think - I had to remove to case to keep it cool enough to operate a long time ago)

                              I would love to continue to refine my install and participate - my existing system is totally cobbled and while I have some high quality antennas and coax, I was only hoping to prove I could get my site to work - after several adaptations, I've managed to get up to about 80NM and I know my USB stick is horrible, un filtered and does not include a preamplifier. Real hardware would probably be a big improvement.

                              I am disappointed that Windows feeds are going away but am also aware that the Windows platform really has some odd timing issues - both in machine control and music software/Pro Audio (areas I work with).
                              Only the very specific "real time" embedded kernels were actually time reliable - I am guessing that this issue makes trying to run an MLAT network nearly impossibly frustrating but was probably OK w/o MLAT?

                              The music/machine/audio issues I have run into were windows version AND hardware specific - so only rigorous testing made any specific platform useful.

                              I too am very tight on cash at the moment and a Pi from Amazon is about $49 here in the US... which is about $44 more than my hobby coffers currently hold.

                              I guess if there was a Unix based image available, I would try that but mini-PC platforms vary a lot and I don't know how effective a "general" image would be.

                              Mark

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MDVolle View Post
                                I guess if there was a Unix based image available, I would try that but mini-PC platforms vary a lot and I don't know how effective a "general" image would be.

                                https://forum.flightradar24.com/thre...l=1#post116967

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