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  • Originally posted by AirMe View Post

    I understand you're point of view. However we should consider DHL Aviation as an airline with multiple subsidiaries, as almost all airlines fleet websites do (including Wikipedia).
    Furthemore, some of the airlines you mentioned are owned by DHL (some of them up to 100%, like BCS).
    As user12345 told you, we use the DHK code as a generic DHL code. Why? DHK was the first DHL airline; the second reason is that DHK is the only airline which officially called "DHL Air" (DHL Air Ltd.) without any nationality or other name in the name. The DHK code is always used when an aircraft has a DHL livery, so this make you easier to find out which aircraft operate for DHL. On live map or in the aircraft page, you can always know which airline operates the aircraft, since you can see "operated by" or "operator".

    I hope you may understand better the situation now. If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to ask anything.

    But that is completely wrong and you are therefore giving incorrect information to the users. I kindly ask you to please correct the mistake and rectify your systems if needed.

    The AeroLogic liveries comprise the white aircraft and the yellow aircraft: therefore you have to label the paint scheme of all AeroLogic aircraft with the ICAO code BOX.
    As I said already, DHL isn’t an airline, doesn’t have any aircraft of its own and therefore doesn’t own an AOC. And DHK has nothing to do with AeroLogic’s German registered aircraft. As DHK is neither a European airline (reason for which DHA has been founded). If a used wants to follow the AeroLogic fleet he/she can only see partially the aircraft that the company operates, and not the real fleet. Opposite, if a user what’s to see DHK’s fleet, he/she is also confronted with a completely wrong fleet which is more than 10 times as big as the real one, with aircraft registered all over the world (while they are only a UK operator).

    As I stated again, the colour scheme has nothing to do with the airline. For example also the white livery Aircraft of AeroLogic operate for DHL Express (and LHC of course), like the yellow aircraft also operate for Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express as it is a Joint Venture between Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express. But no AeroLogic aircraft has never been operate by or for DHK.

    And this statement is also incorrect: “The DHK code is always used when an aircraft has a DHL livery, so this make you easier to find out which aircraft operate for DHL”.
    As Flightradar24 doesn’t include all aircraft that operate for DHL Express under the code DHK, as it is missing all the AeroLogic aircraft painted in white, which fly daily the same exact routes of the yellow ones.

    I thought of Flightradar24 as a platform in which accurate and real data is being shown, and therefore I am hoping that you could keep up with the expectation of the users, and provide real life precise information and rectify the erroneous informations that you are providing as of today.

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    • 3E0F76
      D-HXBA
      EC35
      Airbus Helicopters EC 135 P3
      1178
      ADAC Luftrettung (CHX 18)
      2015-00-00



      3DEFEA
      D-HLCK
      EC35
      Airbus Helicopters EC 135 P2
      1003
      ADAC Luftrettung
      2011-00-00
      Last edited by Nikl01; 2022-12-09, 12:39.

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      • Originally posted by AirMe View Post

        Why not CSX? It will change on FR24 once it will get the new registration.
        On December 6th (the day you posted) it wasn't registered as MM but CSX, as you can see here: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10793315
        how will you know when it delivers? Every time the flight tests are FID "SPERA" can you change the prefix to 'MT' too? What about the M346, AT76, C27J you will keep changing their serial on FR24 to fit the flights? The two AT76 at TRN now are MT* but you haven't corrected their details. Why not?

        You know that these will all be MM* and you know how the prefix changes to suit the purpose (CSX/MT/MM)
        Last edited by AirMe; 2022-12-10, 01:49.

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        • 3FFA99
          D-MEFX
          C42
          Comco Ikarus C42CS
          2104-7646
          2022
          Private
          Last edited by Andy203; 2022-12-09, 13:28.

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          • AD7284
            N966AV
            A20N
            Airbus A320-251N
            11213
            Avianca Costa Rica
            LRC
            LRC

            2022-11-17

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            • I believe that I and many others are posting corrections that are not being made. That's right? Are you only performing new additions instead of correcting as well?
              Numerous old correction posts are not being made and this is discouraging, like the one below:

              E488ED
              PT-WKF
              PA34
              Last edited by vinicius325; 2022-12-09, 14:25.

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              • 0D8456
                YV3529
                ASTR
                Astra 1125 SPX
                111
                1999-00-00

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                • A4C837
                  N407SE
                  B407
                  Bell 407GX
                  54386
                  Private owner

                  A4C839
                  N407SG
                  B407
                  Bell 407GXP
                  54655

                  Private owner
                  2015-00-00

                  AC9582
                  N91ND
                  B06
                  Bell OH-58A Kiowa
                  42192 (this is the true serial number, not the former military registration number)
                  United States - Stratford Police Department

                  ACE480
                  N93ND
                  UH1
                  Bell UH-1H Iroquois ("Iroquois" should be added to end of model designation)
                  11275 (this is the true serial number, not the former military registration number)
                  United States - Stratford Police Department

                  A4C7D9
                  N407NL
                  B407
                  Bell 407
                  53913
                  United States - Orange County Sheriff's Office

                  A672DD
                  N5141Y
                  C182
                  Cessna 182T Skylane
                  18281077
                  United States - Virginia Marine Police

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                  • 3F3499
                    D-OFVD
                    BALL
                    Balóny Kubíček BB34Z
                    1380
                    private owner
                    2017-08-24


                    3F3498
                    D-OFVC
                    BALL
                    Balóny Kubíček BB26XR
                    1538
                    private owner
                    2019-05-19


                    3Fd658
                    D-OSPK
                    BALL
                    Balóny Kubíček BB-S PIGGY
                    1700
                    private owner
                    2020-10-30

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                    • E0B208
                      LV-KHH
                      SR22
                      Cirrus SR22
                      S/N Unknown
                      Private Owner
                      2022-12-00

                      The world’s most popular flight tracker. Track planes in real-time on our flight tracker map and get up-to-date flight status & airport information.

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                      • Originally posted by WayneKing View Post

                        how will you know when it delivers? Every time the flight tests are FID "SPERA" can you change the prefix to 'MT' too? What about the M346, AT76, C27J you will keep changing their serial on FR24 to fit the flights? The two AT76 at TRN now are MT* but you haven't corrected their details. Why not?

                        You know that these will all be MM* and you know how the prefix changes to suit the purpose (CSX/MT/MM)
                        About MT regs, if you know when these change are effective, feel free to post them here. They might be changed on FR24 too.

                        Some helicopters have CSX regs for more than half year. It's no sense add a future registration when the same hex belongs to a (different) current registration. If you know when they will be delivered, post it here, the registration will change max in a couple of days. Or wait until someone else here will get it, exactly as it happen everyday with other aircraft (eg. Airbus/Boeing).

                        Also, if you have the correct data for M346, AT76, C27J, please, feel free to post it here, would be very useful to correct these airframes.

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                        • Originally posted by Hii View Post


                          But that is completely wrong and you are therefore giving incorrect information to the users. I kindly ask you to please correct the mistake and rectify your systems if needed.

                          The AeroLogic liveries comprise the white aircraft and the yellow aircraft: therefore you have to label the paint scheme of all AeroLogic aircraft with the ICAO code BOX.
                          As I said already, DHL isn’t an airline, doesn’t have any aircraft of its own and therefore doesn’t own an AOC. And DHK has nothing to do with AeroLogic’s German registered aircraft. As DHK is neither a European airline (reason for which DHA has been founded). If a used wants to follow the AeroLogic fleet he/she can only see partially the aircraft that the company operates, and not the real fleet. Opposite, if a user what’s to see DHK’s fleet, he/she is also confronted with a completely wrong fleet which is more than 10 times as big as the real one, with aircraft registered all over the world (while they are only a UK operator).

                          As I stated again, the colour scheme has nothing to do with the airline. For example also the white livery Aircraft of AeroLogic operate for DHL Express (and LHC of course), like the yellow aircraft also operate for Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express as it is a Joint Venture between Lufthansa Cargo and DHL Express. But no AeroLogic aircraft has never been operate by or for DHK.

                          And this statement is also incorrect: “The DHK code is always used when an aircraft has a DHL livery, so this make you easier to find out which aircraft operate for DHL”.
                          As Flightradar24 doesn’t include all aircraft that operate for DHL Express under the code DHK, as it is missing all the AeroLogic aircraft painted in white, which fly daily the same exact routes of the yellow ones.

                          I thought of Flightradar24 as a platform in which accurate and real data is being shown, and therefore I am hoping that you could keep up with the expectation of the users, and provide real life precise information and rectify the erroneous informations that you are providing as of today.
                          I understand your POV and anybody in FR24 is fully aware about everything you wrote; however, DHL owns different AOC around the world, including DHL Air Limited (D0/DHK) through its subsidiaries. One of the most accurate airline fleets website, Planespotters, has a page with DHL fleet which includes the BOX "yellow" aircraft: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/DHL

                          Also, according to the same website, BOX "yellow" aircraft are leased from DHL and operating for DHL.

                          I try to explain it better: DHK is used as PAINT code for DHL: this means that ALL aircraft with the DHL livery have the same paint code. So, all aircraft painted in DHL livery have DHK as paint code. Not only Europe! Around the world, from Panama to Australia, from the US to Namibia, there are dozens of aircraft with DHL livery operated by multiple airlines. All of them have DHK as paint code. This allow you to see the whole DHL Aviation fleet in the DB even if the aircraft is operated by external airlines.

                          This happen also with other airlines, such us FedEx in Europe; Amazon Air aircraft, for example, have the paint code empty since Amazon Air hasn't a code assigned.

                          However, more than trying to explain you the reason why you find DHK as paint code, it's not possible do anything else here, but for any suggestion or complain you can contact FR24 users support by email

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                          • 600003
                            EK-YRC
                            A320
                            Airbus A320-214
                            3152
                            Fly Arna
                            ACY
                            2007-05-03

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                            • Originally posted by vinicius325 View Post
                              I believe that I and many others are posting corrections that are not being made. That's right? Are you only performing new additions instead of correcting as well?
                              Numerous old correction posts are not being made and this is discouraging, like the one below:

                              E488ED
                              PT-WKF
                              PA34
                              Database edits typically happen within a few days for submissions which can be verified via third party websites. Those which cannot are put to one side until such a time when they can. I am unable to find any verification for your submission and in fact from the limited flight history that is available, the hex is (or was) being used by SR22 PP-LJF, PP-FFY,, PR-TIN and PR-VMJ thus it would appear that there are at least 3 miscodes in play here. If you wish to provide photo evidence of the alleged PA34 with exif tags and matching hex playback to prove the submission then we will take another look.
                              Editor

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                              • 8835D2
                                MNRE4218
                                A169
                                Leonardo Helicopters AW169
                                69151

                                Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment (Thailand)
                                2022-03-25

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