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  • Hi, please add my aircraft to the Flightradar24 database, detail as follows.

    4B4203
    HB-YZZ
    RV8
    Van's RV-8
    82861
    Private owner
    GY/S (Gray/Silver)
    2022-11-14

    Many thanks
    Christian

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    • Originally posted by Hii View Post
      AeroLogic's fleet comprises actually 21 aircraft. All aircraft are registered as D-AAL... and a letter of the alphabet in cronological order of entry in the fleet. The 1st aircraft is the D-AALA (Alpha), and the newest addition is the 21st letter of the alphabet, therefore D-AALU (Uniform).
      As AeroLogic is a Joint Venture between DHL Express and Lufthansa Cargo ( https://www.aerologic.aero/home ), some aircraft wear a yellow livery, and some a white livery.

      Hereby the aircraft that are to be added to the AeroLogic fleet on the FlightRadar24 platform:

      3C458C
      D-AALL
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66081
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2019-09-10

      3C458D
      D-AALM
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66082
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2019-09-23

      3C458F
      D-AALO
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66085
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2020-03-19

      3C4590
      D-AALP
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66086
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2020-07-07

      3C4591
      D-AALQ
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66088
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2020-11-10

      3C4592
      D-AALR
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66814
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2021-03-06

      3C4593
      D-AALS
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66862
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2021-05-22

      3C4594
      D-AALT
      B77L
      Boeing 777-F
      66863
      AeroLogic
      BOX (DHL)
      BOX
      2021-07-09
      Hello!

      The "yellow livery" it's actually the DHL livery, so all the aircrafts you listed have the DHL livery and not the AeroLogic one; it's not possible list an aircraft on two different lists, so the ones with the DHL livery are listed on the DHL fleet list, while the others are listed in the Aerologic fleet list.

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      • Originally posted by AirMe View Post

        Hello!

        The "yellow livery" it's actually the DHL livery, so all the aircrafts you listed have the DHL livery and not the AeroLogic one; it's not possible list an aircraft on two different lists, so the ones with the DHL livery are listed on the DHL fleet list, while the others are listed in the Aerologic fleet list.
        Good morning,
        and thank you for your quick reply.

        Unfortunately that is incorrect.
        DHL is not an airline, it's a German logistics company, therefore doesn't have any aircraft of its own and neither holds any AOC.

        The AeroLogic airplanes listed above are at the moment listed in the fleet of another operator, which is DHK. But it has nothing to do with AeroLogic, as DHK is an UK airline that flies for DHL. Many other airlines also fly for DHL and have aircraft painted with the DHL branding. See for example DHA (DHL Austria), BCS (European Air Transport), DHK (DHL UK), BOX (AeroLogic), PAC (Polar Air Cargo), AHK (Air Hongkong) DAE (DHL Aero Express), DHX (DHL Aviation EEMEA) and many others.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Aviation

        Many of this aircrafts are also erroneously listed under DHK on Flightradar24, but this is not correct. DHK has a fleet of 20 aircraft and bases its operations from East Midlands. On Flightradar24 DHK has 206 aircraft listed, which is completely incorrect.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Air_UK

        While AeroLogic has 21 aircrafts, but on Flightradar24 only 13 are shown.
        https://www.aerologic.aero/home
        The other 8 are the ones I listed above, which as of today are listed wrongly on the fleet of DHL Air UK, which is only one random airline of the many operators that fly for DHL.

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        • E80B2E
          CC-DHI
          B350
          Beech King Air 350i
          FL-1223
          Private Owner
          2020
          Chile

          (ex N26BA)

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          • A63B83
            N500SC
            B407
            Bell 407
            53947
            United States - SC State Law Enforcement Division

            A642F9
            N502SL
            H500
            MD Helicopters MD 500
            0244E
            United States - SC State Law Enforcement Division
            1988-00-00


            A64A67
            N504SL
            H500
            MD Helicopters MD 500
            0621E
            United States - SC State Law Enforcement Division
            2014-00-00

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            • E8810A
              ZP-BSW
              C210
              CESSNA C210M
              210-62727
              PRIVATE OWNER

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              • Originally posted by Hii View Post

                Good morning,
                and thank you for your quick reply.

                Unfortunately that is incorrect.
                DHL is not an airline, it's a German logistics company, therefore doesn't have any aircraft of its own and neither holds any AOC.

                The AeroLogic airplanes listed above are at the moment listed in the fleet of another operator, which is DHK. But it has nothing to do with AeroLogic, as DHK is an UK airline that flies for DHL. Many other airlines also fly for DHL and have aircraft painted with the DHL branding. See for example DHA (DHL Austria), BCS (European Air Transport), DHK (DHL UK), BOX (AeroLogic), PAC (Polar Air Cargo), AHK (Air Hongkong) DAE (DHL Aero Express), DHX (DHL Aviation EEMEA) and many others.
                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Aviation

                Many of this aircrafts are also erroneously listed under DHK on Flightradar24, but this is not correct. DHK has a fleet of 20 aircraft and bases its operations from East Midlands. On Flightradar24 DHK has 206 aircraft listed, which is completely incorrect.
                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Air_UK

                While AeroLogic has 21 aircrafts, but on Flightradar24 only 13 are shown.
                https://www.aerologic.aero/home
                The other 8 are the ones I listed above, which as of today are listed wrongly on the fleet of DHL Air UK, which is only one random airline of the many operators that fly for DHL.
                The use of DHK is a reference to the paint scheme, but the paint scheme identifier code in the back-end database editor is labelled as the operator. DHL as a logistics company does not have a unique ICAO operator code, and the paint scheme field only accepts ICAO operator codes, so we have to improvise. For instances like this it gets very confusing as were are essentially working with a broken system. I have personally raised the issue with the owners about DHK being used incorrectly and it should be addressed at some point, but the cogs turn slowly and requires a redesign of the database to handle the additional fields that will be required. For now, it's a case of trying to make the best of a bad situation. We are aware but the site does not have the functionality to improve matters on how these are displayed.

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                • A52F70
                  N433NA
                  UH1
                  Bell UH-1H Iroquois
                  65-9992
                  Private owner

                  Comment


                  • 898147

                    P2-DAD
                    B222
                    Bell 222
                    47041
                    Manolos Aviation

                    year unknown

                    .

                    Comment


                    • A6B27A
                      N530X
                      H500
                      MD Helicopters MD 500
                      0112FF
                      United States - Oxford Police Department

                      A6C50D
                      N535X
                      H500
                      Hughes 369A
                      101356
                      United States - Oxford Police Department
                      0000-00-00

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                      • A0ABB1
                        N142SC
                        H500
                        Hughes 369A
                        1180910
                        United States - Spartanburg Co. Sheriff's Office

                        A304FD
                        N294GS
                        H500
                        Hughes 369A
                        691177
                        United States - Spartanburg Co. Sheriff's Office
                        0000-00-00
                        (current manufacture date is set to 1998, but this is an older military aircraft now used for law enforcement and the FAA registration has no mfr year listed)

                        A1AC47
                        N207CS
                        B06
                        Bell 206B JetRanger (remove the "II" as this is a plain 206B JetRanger model)
                        5231
                        United States - Indian River Co. Sheriff's Office

                        AC9C28
                        N911UD
                        B06
                        Bell OH-58A Kiowa
                        72-21249
                        United States - Indian River Co. Sheriff's Office

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                        • Originally posted by Hii View Post

                          Good morning,
                          and thank you for your quick reply.

                          Unfortunately that is incorrect.
                          DHL is not an airline, it's a German logistics company, therefore doesn't have any aircraft of its own and neither holds any AOC.

                          The AeroLogic airplanes listed above are at the moment listed in the fleet of another operator, which is DHK. But it has nothing to do with AeroLogic, as DHK is an UK airline that flies for DHL. Many other airlines also fly for DHL and have aircraft painted with the DHL branding. See for example DHA (DHL Austria), BCS (European Air Transport), DHK (DHL UK), BOX (AeroLogic), PAC (Polar Air Cargo), AHK (Air Hongkong) DAE (DHL Aero Express), DHX (DHL Aviation EEMEA) and many others.
                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Aviation

                          Many of this aircrafts are also erroneously listed under DHK on Flightradar24, but this is not correct. DHK has a fleet of 20 aircraft and bases its operations from East Midlands. On Flightradar24 DHK has 206 aircraft listed, which is completely incorrect.
                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHL_Air_UK

                          While AeroLogic has 21 aircrafts, but on Flightradar24 only 13 are shown.
                          https://www.aerologic.aero/home
                          The other 8 are the ones I listed above, which as of today are listed wrongly on the fleet of DHL Air UK, which is only one random airline of the many operators that fly for DHL.
                          I understand you're point of view. However we should consider DHL Aviation as an airline with multiple subsidiaries, as almost all airlines fleet websites do (including Wikipedia).
                          Furthemore, some of the airlines you mentioned are owned by DHL (some of them up to 100%, like BCS).
                          As DB Editor told you, we use the DHK code as a generic DHL code. Why? DHK was the first DHL airline; the second reason is that DHK is the only airline which officially called "DHL Air" (DHL Air Ltd.) without any nationality or other name in the name. The DHK code is always used when an aircraft has a DHL livery, so this make you easier to find out which aircraft operate for DHL. On live map or in the aircraft page, you can always know which airline operates the aircraft, since you can see "operated by" or "operator".

                          I hope you may understand better the situation now. If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to ask anything.
                          Last edited by AirMe; 2022-11-25, 01:02.

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                          • AC9C37
                            N911UU
                            B06
                            Bell 206B JetRanger III (this aircraft is a JetRanger III, not a JetRanger II)
                            4614
                            United States - Chicago Police Department

                            ACE5C5
                            N930BC
                            B06
                            Bell OH-58A Kiowa
                            70-15606 (serial number per FAA registration is 70-15606, but is currently shown as 41049)
                            United States - Beaufort County Sheriff's Office

                            A308CD
                            N295HS
                            B06
                            Bell OH-58A Kiowa
                            70-15194
                            United States - Brevard County Sheriff's Office
                            0000-00-00
                            (remove age, no MFR year listed on FAA registration)

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                            • 1F7B04
                              97028
                              SU95
                              Sukhoi Superjet 100-95B
                              test registration
                              Sukhoi Aircaft Bureau
                              He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                              • Kindly update the operator for the following aircrafts:

                                3C664E
                                D-AIRN
                                A321
                                DLH
                                DLH

                                3C6655
                                D-AIRU
                                A321
                                DLH
                                DLH

                                3C6652
                                D-AIRR
                                A321
                                DLH
                                DLH

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