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  • 7504B1
    9M-RAR
    A20N
    Airbus A320-251N
    9034
    AirAsia
    AXM (Visit Truly Asia Malaysia 2020 Sticker)
    AXM
    2019-06-07

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    • 750334
      9M-XXP
      A333
      Airbus A330-343
      1481
      AirAsia
      AXM (Manny Pacquiao Sticker)
      AXM
      2013-11-13

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      • 750324
        9M-AQZ
        A320
        A320-216
        5888
        AirAsia
        AXM (Save our Malayan Tiger Livery)
        AXM
        2013-11-21

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        • 780A62
          oneWorld Livery

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          • Originally posted by AirMe View Post
            39CC02 was Aigle Azur not Air Berlin, so correct the database
            And again, some incompetent db-editor deleted the whole aircraft information and I had to restore it...

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            • 010162
              SU-GED
              B738
              Boeing 737-866
              EgyptAir [NO longer in special livery]
              MSR
              MSR

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              • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post
                There are some problems with data related to Jonair (ICAO: JON).

                1.
                ICAO JON belongs to Jonair, not JOON like your database suggests.

                2. The following aircraft have Jonair as the owner, but since this airline isn't correctly defined in the database, if you click on the owner nothing happens.
                SE-MHU B190 4AB515
                SE-MJU BE20 4AB555
                SE-KVL BE20 4AAECC
                SE-LTL BE20 4AB28C
                SE-FNE PA31 4A99C5
                SE-GLE PA31 4A9D85
                Also note that all of the aircraft listed above should have Jonair as both the owner and operator.

                3.
                Jonair recently bought SE-MHU and is now the owner and operator of this aircraft. My source for this is Transportstyrelsen / The Swedish Transportation Agency, which is an official source of information.
                Currently this aircraft is according to your data owned by Hummingbird Aviation / ETI, which is incorrect as of recently. Even though the callsign says ETI, the aircraft is not owned nor operated by ETI.
                I listened in to the ATC at ESNU this morning and clearly heard "JONAIR 22" even though the callsign on FR24 was ETI93U for this particular flight.
                I know you can't do anything about the callsign, I just want to clarify that it doesn't mean anything in this case.

                The data should be:
                Reg: SE-MHU
                Mode S: 4AB515
                MSN: UC-115
                Code: B190
                Airline: Jonair
                Operator: Jonair
                Do you have official proof that Jonair is assigned that code? I have checked the ICAO 8585 and US equivalent JO 7340 documents and it is still officially allocated to JOON. There is no mention of any change in the changes/additions/contractions supplements through to 30 October 2019.
                ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.

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                • In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                  This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                  Note that tickets can be bought from the Jonair website but not from travel agent websites, since Jonair has no IATA code and is not connected to the travel agency ticket systems.
                  Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                  • Originally posted by Oblivian View Post
                    In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                    This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                    Nevertheless, SE-MHU should be fixable by standard dbeditors. It is owned and operated by Jonair according to the Swedish Transport Agency, which is an official source that can be checked by anyone. FR24 even shows their callsign as JON06 now.

                    The data should be:
                    Reg: SE-MHU
                    Mode S: 4AB515
                    MSN: UC-115
                    Code: B190
                    Airline: Jonair
                    Operator: Jonair

                    EDIT: I contacted the airline and it's actually true that they don't have an ICAO-code (or IATA-code although I already knew that). Anyway, shouldn't it be possible to add them to the database as an airline anyway? How would I go about getting it fixed if this is not a good thread for that?
                    Last edited by johnor999; 2019-12-17, 15:23.

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                    • JA01VA is not Vanilla Air, currently ANA. Please correct database and also please remove photo of Vanilla Air.

                      8406B0
                      JA01VA
                      A320
                      Airbus A320-214
                      5844
                      All Nippon Airways
                      ANA
                      ANA

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                      • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post



                        ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                        If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.
                        FAA's ICAO code document shows JON belogs to the French airline Joon. You can see all ICAO codes here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...d_10_10_19.pdf

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                        • Dear whom may it concern,

                          Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                          8406B0
                          JA01VA
                          A320
                          Airbus A320-214
                          5844
                          All Nippon Airways
                          ANA
                          ANA

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                          • Originally posted by KKazu View Post
                            Dear whom may it concern,

                            Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                            8406B0
                            JA01VA
                            A320
                            Airbus A320-214
                            5844
                            All Nippon Airways
                            ANA
                            ANA
                            Photos are on jetphotos.com

                            They are not stored here

                            They tie to the reg

                            New photos need to be updated to jetphotos.com
                            Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                            • Avianca AVA yesterday retired the last A318 from the fleet, all A318 have to be removed from database:

                              A7976B
                              N589AV
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2575
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              29 Sep 2005
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                              A79DD6
                              N590EL
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2328
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              15 Oct 2004
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                              A7A544
                              N592EL
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2358
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              19 Nov 2004
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                              A7B420
                              N596EL
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2523
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              29 Jun 2005
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                              A7B7D7
                              N597EL
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2544
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              3 Aug 2005
                              ----------------------


                              A7BB8E
                              N598EL
                              Airbus A318-111
                              2552
                              AVIANCA
                              AVA
                              24 Aug 2005

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                              • 7C1B2B
                                VH-FNH
                                PC12
                                Pilatus PC-12/47E
                                1913
                                R.F.D.S. Australia
                                2019-12-00

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