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  • 39CC02 was Aigle Azur not Air Berlin, so correct the database

    448442
    OO-ABB
    A343
    Airbus A340-313
    Air Belgium (Guadeloupe-Martinique Livery)
    ABB
    ABB

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    • 7504B1
      9M-RAR
      A20N
      Airbus A320-251N
      9034
      AirAsia
      AXM (Visit Truly Asia Malaysia 2020 Sticker)
      AXM
      2019-06-07

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      • 750334
        9M-XXP
        A333
        Airbus A330-343
        1481
        AirAsia
        AXM (Manny Pacquiao Sticker)
        AXM
        2013-11-13

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        • 750324
          9M-AQZ
          A320
          A320-216
          5888
          AirAsia
          AXM (Save our Malayan Tiger Livery)
          AXM
          2013-11-21

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          • 780A62
            oneWorld Livery

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            • Originally posted by AirMe View Post
              39CC02 was Aigle Azur not Air Berlin, so correct the database
              And again, some incompetent db-editor deleted the whole aircraft information and I had to restore it...

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              • 010162
                SU-GED
                B738
                Boeing 737-866
                EgyptAir [NO longer in special livery]
                MSR
                MSR

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                • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post
                  There are some problems with data related to Jonair (ICAO: JON).

                  1.
                  ICAO JON belongs to Jonair, not JOON like your database suggests.

                  2. The following aircraft have Jonair as the owner, but since this airline isn't correctly defined in the database, if you click on the owner nothing happens.
                  SE-MHU B190 4AB515
                  SE-MJU BE20 4AB555
                  SE-KVL BE20 4AAECC
                  SE-LTL BE20 4AB28C
                  SE-FNE PA31 4A99C5
                  SE-GLE PA31 4A9D85
                  Also note that all of the aircraft listed above should have Jonair as both the owner and operator.

                  3.
                  Jonair recently bought SE-MHU and is now the owner and operator of this aircraft. My source for this is Transportstyrelsen / The Swedish Transportation Agency, which is an official source of information.
                  Currently this aircraft is according to your data owned by Hummingbird Aviation / ETI, which is incorrect as of recently. Even though the callsign says ETI, the aircraft is not owned nor operated by ETI.
                  I listened in to the ATC at ESNU this morning and clearly heard "JONAIR 22" even though the callsign on FR24 was ETI93U for this particular flight.
                  I know you can't do anything about the callsign, I just want to clarify that it doesn't mean anything in this case.

                  The data should be:
                  Reg: SE-MHU
                  Mode S: 4AB515
                  MSN: UC-115
                  Code: B190
                  Airline: Jonair
                  Operator: Jonair
                  Do you have official proof that Jonair is assigned that code? I have checked the ICAO 8585 and US equivalent JO 7340 documents and it is still officially allocated to JOON. There is no mention of any change in the changes/additions/contractions supplements through to 30 October 2019.
                  ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                  If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.

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                  • In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                    This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                    Note that tickets can be bought from the Jonair website but not from travel agent websites, since Jonair has no IATA code and is not connected to the travel agency ticket systems.
                    Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                    • Originally posted by Oblivian View Post
                      In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                      This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                      Nevertheless, SE-MHU should be fixable by standard dbeditors. It is owned and operated by Jonair according to the Swedish Transport Agency, which is an official source that can be checked by anyone. FR24 even shows their callsign as JON06 now.

                      The data should be:
                      Reg: SE-MHU
                      Mode S: 4AB515
                      MSN: UC-115
                      Code: B190
                      Airline: Jonair
                      Operator: Jonair

                      EDIT: I contacted the airline and it's actually true that they don't have an ICAO-code (or IATA-code although I already knew that). Anyway, shouldn't it be possible to add them to the database as an airline anyway? How would I go about getting it fixed if this is not a good thread for that?
                      Last edited by johnor999; 2019-12-17, 15:23.

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                      • JA01VA is not Vanilla Air, currently ANA. Please correct database and also please remove photo of Vanilla Air.

                        8406B0
                        JA01VA
                        A320
                        Airbus A320-214
                        5844
                        All Nippon Airways
                        ANA
                        ANA

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                        • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post



                          ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                          If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.
                          FAA's ICAO code document shows JON belogs to the French airline Joon. You can see all ICAO codes here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...d_10_10_19.pdf

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                          • Dear whom may it concern,

                            Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                            8406B0
                            JA01VA
                            A320
                            Airbus A320-214
                            5844
                            All Nippon Airways
                            ANA
                            ANA

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                            • Originally posted by KKazu View Post
                              Dear whom may it concern,

                              Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                              8406B0
                              JA01VA
                              A320
                              Airbus A320-214
                              5844
                              All Nippon Airways
                              ANA
                              ANA
                              Photos are on jetphotos.com

                              They are not stored here

                              They tie to the reg

                              New photos need to be updated to jetphotos.com
                              Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                              • Avianca AVA yesterday retired the last A318 from the fleet, all A318 have to be removed from database:

                                A7976B
                                N589AV
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2575
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                29 Sep 2005
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                                A79DD6
                                N590EL
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2328
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                15 Oct 2004
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                                A7A544
                                N592EL
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2358
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                19 Nov 2004
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                                A7B420
                                N596EL
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2523
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                29 Jun 2005
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                                A7B7D7
                                N597EL
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2544
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                3 Aug 2005
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                                A7BB8E
                                N598EL
                                Airbus A318-111
                                2552
                                AVIANCA
                                AVA
                                24 Aug 2005

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