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    oneWorld Livery

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    • Originally posted by AirMe View Post
      39CC02 was Aigle Azur not Air Berlin, so correct the database
      And again, some incompetent db-editor deleted the whole aircraft information and I had to restore it...

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      • 010162
        SU-GED
        B738
        Boeing 737-866
        EgyptAir [NO longer in special livery]
        MSR
        MSR

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        • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post
          There are some problems with data related to Jonair (ICAO: JON).

          1.
          ICAO JON belongs to Jonair, not JOON like your database suggests.

          2. The following aircraft have Jonair as the owner, but since this airline isn't correctly defined in the database, if you click on the owner nothing happens.
          SE-MHU B190 4AB515
          SE-MJU BE20 4AB555
          SE-KVL BE20 4AAECC
          SE-LTL BE20 4AB28C
          SE-FNE PA31 4A99C5
          SE-GLE PA31 4A9D85
          Also note that all of the aircraft listed above should have Jonair as both the owner and operator.

          3.
          Jonair recently bought SE-MHU and is now the owner and operator of this aircraft. My source for this is Transportstyrelsen / The Swedish Transportation Agency, which is an official source of information.
          Currently this aircraft is according to your data owned by Hummingbird Aviation / ETI, which is incorrect as of recently. Even though the callsign says ETI, the aircraft is not owned nor operated by ETI.
          I listened in to the ATC at ESNU this morning and clearly heard "JONAIR 22" even though the callsign on FR24 was ETI93U for this particular flight.
          I know you can't do anything about the callsign, I just want to clarify that it doesn't mean anything in this case.

          The data should be:
          Reg: SE-MHU
          Mode S: 4AB515
          MSN: UC-115
          Code: B190
          Airline: Jonair
          Operator: Jonair
          Do you have official proof that Jonair is assigned that code? I have checked the ICAO 8585 and US equivalent JO 7340 documents and it is still officially allocated to JOON. There is no mention of any change in the changes/additions/contractions supplements through to 30 October 2019.
          ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

          If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.

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          • In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

            This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
            Note that tickets can be bought from the Jonair website but not from travel agent websites, since Jonair has no IATA code and is not connected to the travel agency ticket systems.
            Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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            • Originally posted by Oblivian View Post
              In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

              This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
              Nevertheless, SE-MHU should be fixable by standard dbeditors. It is owned and operated by Jonair according to the Swedish Transport Agency, which is an official source that can be checked by anyone. FR24 even shows their callsign as JON06 now.

              The data should be:
              Reg: SE-MHU
              Mode S: 4AB515
              MSN: UC-115
              Code: B190
              Airline: Jonair
              Operator: Jonair

              EDIT: I contacted the airline and it's actually true that they don't have an ICAO-code (or IATA-code although I already knew that). Anyway, shouldn't it be possible to add them to the database as an airline anyway? How would I go about getting it fixed if this is not a good thread for that?
              Last edited by johnor999; 2019-12-17, 15:23.

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              • JA01VA is not Vanilla Air, currently ANA. Please correct database and also please remove photo of Vanilla Air.

                8406B0
                JA01VA
                A320
                Airbus A320-214
                5844
                All Nippon Airways
                ANA
                ANA

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                • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post



                  ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                  If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.
                  FAA's ICAO code document shows JON belogs to the French airline Joon. You can see all ICAO codes here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...d_10_10_19.pdf

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                  • Dear whom may it concern,

                    Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                    8406B0
                    JA01VA
                    A320
                    Airbus A320-214
                    5844
                    All Nippon Airways
                    ANA
                    ANA

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                    • Originally posted by KKazu View Post
                      Dear whom may it concern,

                      Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                      8406B0
                      JA01VA
                      A320
                      Airbus A320-214
                      5844
                      All Nippon Airways
                      ANA
                      ANA
                      Photos are on jetphotos.com

                      They are not stored here

                      They tie to the reg

                      New photos need to be updated to jetphotos.com
                      Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                      • Avianca AVA yesterday retired the last A318 from the fleet, all A318 have to be removed from database:

                        A7976B
                        N589AV
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2575
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        29 Sep 2005
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                        A79DD6
                        N590EL
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2328
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        15 Oct 2004
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                        A7A544
                        N592EL
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2358
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        19 Nov 2004
                        ----------------------


                        A7B420
                        N596EL
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2523
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        29 Jun 2005
                        ----------------------


                        A7B7D7
                        N597EL
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2544
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        3 Aug 2005
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                        A7BB8E
                        N598EL
                        Airbus A318-111
                        2552
                        AVIANCA
                        AVA
                        24 Aug 2005

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                        • 7C1B2B
                          VH-FNH
                          PC12
                          Pilatus PC-12/47E
                          1913
                          R.F.D.S. Australia
                          2019-12-00

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                          • 7C2E33
                            VH-JET
                            B350
                            Textron B300 Super King Air

                            FL-1197
                            Private
                            2019-12-00

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                            • 8A044F
                              PK-GAF (error)
                              AT76 (error) should be B737

                              This is a B737 erroneously listed as a AT76. some of the flights are not possible to be done with a AT76

                              Refering to PK-GAF's flight history, it has made flights at distances and attitude that could only be carried out by the B737 but the database records the aircraft as ATR72-600.

                              Do check out 12 Dec 19 (Singapore Surabaya), 11 Dec (Perth Denpasar) and 7 Dec (Denpasar Guangzhou), the these are unlikely to be ATR flights and ATR is unable to reach 35,000 ft,

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                              • Originally posted by ponders View Post
                                8A044F
                                PK-GAF (error)
                                AT76 (error) should be B737

                                This is a B737 erroneously listed as a AT76. some of the flights are not possible to be done with a AT76

                                Refering to PK-GAF's flight history, it has made flights at distances and attitude that could only be carried out by the B737 but the database records the aircraft as ATR72-600.

                                Do check out 12 Dec 19 (Singapore Surabaya), 11 Dec (Perth Denpasar) and 7 Dec (Denpasar Guangzhou), the these are unlikely to be ATR flights and ATR is unable to reach 35,000 ft,
                                The details are correct, but 8A044F is also being used by B738 PK-GNN, miscoded.
                                Don't know the ICAO type code? Look it up here.

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