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  • 750334
    9M-XXP
    A333
    Airbus A330-343
    1481
    AirAsia
    AXM (Manny Pacquiao Sticker)
    AXM
    2013-11-13

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    • 750324
      9M-AQZ
      A320
      A320-216
      5888
      AirAsia
      AXM (Save our Malayan Tiger Livery)
      AXM
      2013-11-21

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      • 780A62
        oneWorld Livery

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        • Originally posted by AirMe View Post
          39CC02 was Aigle Azur not Air Berlin, so correct the database
          And again, some incompetent db-editor deleted the whole aircraft information and I had to restore it...

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          • 010162
            SU-GED
            B738
            Boeing 737-866
            EgyptAir [NO longer in special livery]
            MSR
            MSR

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            • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post
              There are some problems with data related to Jonair (ICAO: JON).

              1.
              ICAO JON belongs to Jonair, not JOON like your database suggests.

              2. The following aircraft have Jonair as the owner, but since this airline isn't correctly defined in the database, if you click on the owner nothing happens.
              SE-MHU B190 4AB515
              SE-MJU BE20 4AB555
              SE-KVL BE20 4AAECC
              SE-LTL BE20 4AB28C
              SE-FNE PA31 4A99C5
              SE-GLE PA31 4A9D85
              Also note that all of the aircraft listed above should have Jonair as both the owner and operator.

              3.
              Jonair recently bought SE-MHU and is now the owner and operator of this aircraft. My source for this is Transportstyrelsen / The Swedish Transportation Agency, which is an official source of information.
              Currently this aircraft is according to your data owned by Hummingbird Aviation / ETI, which is incorrect as of recently. Even though the callsign says ETI, the aircraft is not owned nor operated by ETI.
              I listened in to the ATC at ESNU this morning and clearly heard "JONAIR 22" even though the callsign on FR24 was ETI93U for this particular flight.
              I know you can't do anything about the callsign, I just want to clarify that it doesn't mean anything in this case.

              The data should be:
              Reg: SE-MHU
              Mode S: 4AB515
              MSN: UC-115
              Code: B190
              Airline: Jonair
              Operator: Jonair
              Do you have official proof that Jonair is assigned that code? I have checked the ICAO 8585 and US equivalent JO 7340 documents and it is still officially allocated to JOON. There is no mention of any change in the changes/additions/contractions supplements through to 30 October 2019.
              ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

              If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.

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              • In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                Note that tickets can be bought from the Jonair website but not from travel agent websites, since Jonair has no IATA code and is not connected to the travel agency ticket systems.
                Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                • Originally posted by Oblivian View Post
                  In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

                  This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
                  Nevertheless, SE-MHU should be fixable by standard dbeditors. It is owned and operated by Jonair according to the Swedish Transport Agency, which is an official source that can be checked by anyone. FR24 even shows their callsign as JON06 now.

                  The data should be:
                  Reg: SE-MHU
                  Mode S: 4AB515
                  MSN: UC-115
                  Code: B190
                  Airline: Jonair
                  Operator: Jonair

                  EDIT: I contacted the airline and it's actually true that they don't have an ICAO-code (or IATA-code although I already knew that). Anyway, shouldn't it be possible to add them to the database as an airline anyway? How would I go about getting it fixed if this is not a good thread for that?
                  Last edited by johnor999; 2019-12-17, 15:23.

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                  • JA01VA is not Vanilla Air, currently ANA. Please correct database and also please remove photo of Vanilla Air.

                    8406B0
                    JA01VA
                    A320
                    Airbus A320-214
                    5844
                    All Nippon Airways
                    ANA
                    ANA

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                    • Originally posted by johnor999 View Post



                      ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

                      If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.
                      FAA's ICAO code document shows JON belogs to the French airline Joon. You can see all ICAO codes here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...d_10_10_19.pdf

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                      • Dear whom may it concern,

                        Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                        8406B0
                        JA01VA
                        A320
                        Airbus A320-214
                        5844
                        All Nippon Airways
                        ANA
                        ANA

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                        • Originally posted by KKazu View Post
                          Dear whom may it concern,

                          Thank you for correcting information of JA01VA, however, there are still some photos of Vanilla Air which was old operator. So please remove photos of Vanilla Air.

                          8406B0
                          JA01VA
                          A320
                          Airbus A320-214
                          5844
                          All Nippon Airways
                          ANA
                          ANA
                          Photos are on jetphotos.com

                          They are not stored here

                          They tie to the reg

                          New photos need to be updated to jetphotos.com
                          Posts not to be taken as official support representation - Just a helpful uploader who tinkers

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                          • Avianca AVA yesterday retired the last A318 from the fleet, all A318 have to be removed from database:

                            A7976B
                            N589AV
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2575
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            29 Sep 2005
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                            A79DD6
                            N590EL
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2328
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            15 Oct 2004
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                            A7A544
                            N592EL
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2358
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            19 Nov 2004
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                            A7B420
                            N596EL
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2523
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            29 Jun 2005
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                            A7B7D7
                            N597EL
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2544
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            3 Aug 2005
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                            A7BB8E
                            N598EL
                            Airbus A318-111
                            2552
                            AVIANCA
                            AVA
                            24 Aug 2005

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                            • 7C1B2B
                              VH-FNH
                              PC12
                              Pilatus PC-12/47E
                              1913
                              R.F.D.S. Australia
                              2019-12-00

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                              • 7C2E33
                                VH-JET
                                B350
                                Textron B300 Super King Air

                                FL-1197
                                Private
                                2019-12-00

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