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  • KKazu
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    JA01VA is not Vanilla Air, currently ANA. Please correct database and also please remove photo of Vanilla Air.

    8406B0
    JA01VA
    A320
    Airbus A320-214
    5844
    All Nippon Airways
    ANA
    ANA

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  • johnor999
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    Originally posted by Oblivian View Post
    In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

    This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
    Nevertheless, SE-MHU should be fixable by standard dbeditors. It is owned and operated by Jonair according to the Swedish Transport Agency, which is an official source that can be checked by anyone. FR24 even shows their callsign as JON06 now.

    The data should be:
    Reg: SE-MHU
    Mode S: 4AB515
    MSN: UC-115
    Code: B190
    Airline: Jonair
    Operator: Jonair

    EDIT: I contacted the airline and it's actually true that they don't have an ICAO-code (or IATA-code although I already knew that). Anyway, shouldn't it be possible to add them to the database as an airline anyway? How would I go about getting it fixed if this is not a good thread for that?
    Last edited by johnor999; 2019-12-17, 15:23.

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  • Oblivian
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    In any case I don't beleive the standard dbeditors can change fleet/airline data (which is why those threads were taken away). Just assign aircraft records the existing ones from an available list. (which is made up of the shortcodes in the background)

    This also doesn't bode well for them - so perhaps they don't have any recognized ICAO attribution either.
    Note that tickets can be bought from the Jonair website but not from travel agent websites, since Jonair has no IATA code and is not connected to the travel agency ticket systems.

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  • johnor999
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    Originally posted by johnor999 View Post
    There are some problems with data related to Jonair (ICAO: JON).

    1.
    ICAO JON belongs to Jonair, not JOON like your database suggests.

    2. The following aircraft have Jonair as the owner, but since this airline isn't correctly defined in the database, if you click on the owner nothing happens.
    SE-MHU B190 4AB515
    SE-MJU BE20 4AB555
    SE-KVL BE20 4AAECC
    SE-LTL BE20 4AB28C
    SE-FNE PA31 4A99C5
    SE-GLE PA31 4A9D85
    Also note that all of the aircraft listed above should have Jonair as both the owner and operator.

    3.
    Jonair recently bought SE-MHU and is now the owner and operator of this aircraft. My source for this is Transportstyrelsen / The Swedish Transportation Agency, which is an official source of information.
    Currently this aircraft is according to your data owned by Hummingbird Aviation / ETI, which is incorrect as of recently. Even though the callsign says ETI, the aircraft is not owned nor operated by ETI.
    I listened in to the ATC at ESNU this morning and clearly heard "JONAIR 22" even though the callsign on FR24 was ETI93U for this particular flight.
    I know you can't do anything about the callsign, I just want to clarify that it doesn't mean anything in this case.

    The data should be:
    Reg: SE-MHU
    Mode S: 4AB515
    MSN: UC-115
    Code: B190
    Airline: Jonair
    Operator: Jonair
    Do you have official proof that Jonair is assigned that code? I have checked the ICAO 8585 and US equivalent JO 7340 documents and it is still officially allocated to JOON. There is no mention of any change in the changes/additions/contractions supplements through to 30 October 2019.
    ch-aviation data says that JON is their ICAO-code. Their callsigns showed up as for example JON31, JON32 etc in data from Swedavia that was available through WebTrak some months ago. Sadly, they shut down public access to WebTrak so it can't be checked at the moment. They use callsign "Jonair 31", "Jonair 32" etc on the radio, which can be verified with liveatc.net. Filing a flight with callsign JON31 when you use callsign "Jonair 31" on the radio makes no sense if JON wasn't their ICAO code. If JON was a fake code, I would expect them to use callsign Juliet-Oscar-November-3-1, not Jonair 31.

    If despite all of the above JON isn't their ICAO-code, then just create a page for them without any codes. They are a legitimate airline that operates commercial flights. Both scheduled passenger service and ad-hoc charter flights. JOON on the other hand don't even officially exist anymore so it makes no sense for them to have a FR24 page or ICAO-code for that matter.

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  • AirMe
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    010162
    SU-GED
    B738
    Boeing 737-866
    EgyptAir [NO longer in special livery]
    MSR
    MSR

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