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  • A9808E
    N711JB
    C25M
    Cessna 525 Citation M2
    525-0976
    CJ-M 03207 LLC
    2017-00-00

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    • 400CDC
      G-LARE
      PA30
      Piper PA-39 Twin Comanche C/R
      39-16
      Glareways (Neasden)
      1970
      Don't know the ICAO type code? Look it up here.

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      • https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-pca
        https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-wkg
        https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oy-gvd

        Proper code for PA-32RT-300 Lance II or Piper PA-32RT-300T Turbo Lance II (generaly A-32RT-300 Lance II oraz A-32RT-300 Turbo Lance II) is P32T (not P32R)

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        • Why UR-PSX shows as PR-GTI?

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          • Following aircraft must be written off from Blue Air (0B/BMS) fleet list: YR-BAC, YR-BAK, YR-BAJ, YR-BAR

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            • Originally posted by Kar View Post
              Why UR-PSX shows as PR-GTI?
              This frame was wfu from GOL in August, 2016, note that they share the same s/n because it is the same aircraft. See: https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...lines/3xephMxq. Maybe the s/n is confusing the FR24 database somehow...

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              • 8A0662
                ICAO P28A

                A42569
                ICAO HA4T
                Last edited by apgphoto; 2018-02-05, 06:12.

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                • 40473D should be G-KEVH but is showing as G-CBPP

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                  • ModeS: 40473D
                    Registration: G-KEVH
                    ICAO Type code: ULAC
                    Type: JABIRU UL-450
                    MSN: PFA 274A-13607
                    Airline:
                    Paint code (ICAO):
                    Operator code (ICAO):

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                    • 738E18
                      ICAO AS50 there is no H125 code

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                      • The KLM E175 fleet all have the incorrect ICAO code of E75S they are all E75L

                        PH-EXG through PH-EXT

                        Link to KLM conformation that they are "long wing" https://news.klm.com/klm-first-europ...-enhancements/

                        JA09FJ, JA10FJ and JA11FJ are also incorrectly coded as E75S they should be E75L

                        Actually looking through other 170-200 most are wrong, the RJA fleet are listed as E75L when they are E75S, same with more than half of the Republic aircraft.

                        Suggest one of you DB guys go and look at the difference between the wings and recode them properly

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                        • Correct

                          4B8421
                          TC-AAA
                          CL60 (Not CL65)


                          3E33C4
                          D-IKUM
                          C303 (Not T303)
                          Last edited by Amauri1955; 2018-02-06, 13:14.

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                          • Boeing Customer Code - no more

                            I posted this in the Forum - Add to the database, but it looks like it has passed unnoticed.

                            It concerns both new posts in the database and edit of former added Boeing aircrafts.

                            The database gets more and more wrong for each Boeing aircraft which is added to the database.
                            For instance there are now approximately 700 Boeing 737 which is wrong !

                            Iíve noticed that even new inputs of Boeing aircrafts in the database, still are shown with customer codes.
                            (As example EI-FRX is being shown as a B737-8AS where it should be B737-800).

                            The thing is, that until summer 2016, each customer was given a specific two digit code.
                            As example Ryanair had B737-8AS, Air France B777-228(ER), Emirates B777-31H(ER).
                            To day they will be Ryanair B737-800, Air France B777-200, Emirates B777-300ER.

                            The two digit code (AS, 28, 1H) have gone.
                            The described above goes for B737-900, B737-800, B737-700 - but not for the B737-8 MAX and B737-9 MAX
                            It goes for B767-300F.
                            It goes for B777-300 and B777F for the cargo version.
                            The B747 is now B747-8F and B747-8i for the passenger version.
                            The B787 are still B787-8, B787-9 and B787-10.

                            The change commenced as follows:
                            B737 Line Number 6082 and onward (the first EI-FRX B737-800 MSN 44746)
                            B747 Line Number 1534 and onward (the first LX-VCN B747-8F MSN 38076)
                            B767 Line Number 1102 and onward (the first N138FE B767-300F MSN 42723)
                            B777 Line Number 1422 and onward (the first N509BJ B777-300ER MSN 62439)

                            Look here for more on the subject
                            https://worldairlinenews.com/tag/boeing-customer-codes/
                            http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1344985
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...customer_codes

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                            • ekrk5 :
                              Those sources are all incorrect.
                              Our internal data system for production shows many different columns, such as :

                              1. Tabulation number (eg. YH890)
                              2. Current configuration (eg. 8, 800, 900ER, 800MMA)
                              3. Current operator (eg. DAL)
                              4. Current owner (eg. DAL)
                              5. Firing order configuration (eg. 932, 8FV, 8AS, 8, 990)
                              6. Line number (eg. 6800)
                              7. Model (eg. 737)
                              8. Model sub (eg. 8, 9, 700, 800, 900)
                              9. Current registry (eg. N890DN)
                              10. Serial (eg. 32001)
                              11. Roll out date.
                              12. First flight date.
                              13. Planned delivery date.

                              There are other systems used which contain additional information but all include the firing order configuration.
                              You are partially correct about the 747-8's changing, but it was not line number 1534, it was 1542 which had a firing order configuration 83Q but changed to 8F when the order transferred to UPS and frames since are simply 8F.
                              Last edited by F-KRNT2; 2018-02-06, 17:53.

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                              • Originally posted by F-KRNT2 View Post
                                ekrk5 :
                                Those sources are all incorrect.
                                Our internal data system for production shows many different columns, such as :

                                1. Tabulation number (eg. YH890)
                                2. Current configuration (eg. 8, 800, 900ER, 800MMA)
                                3. Current operator (eg. DAL)
                                4. Current owner (eg. DAL)
                                5. Firing order configuration (eg. 932, 8FV, 8AS, 8, 990)
                                6. Line number (eg. 6800)
                                7. Model (eg. 737)
                                8. Model sub (eg. 8, 9, 700, 800, 900)
                                9. Current registry (eg. N890DN)
                                10. Serial (eg. 32001)
                                11. Roll out date.
                                12. First flight date.
                                13. Planned delivery date.

                                There are other systems used which contain additional information but all include the firing order configuration.
                                You are partially correct about the 747-8's changing, but it was not line number 1534, it was 1542 which had a firing order configuration 83Q but changed to 8F when the order transferred to UPS and frames since are simply 8F.
                                Thank you. Nice to get a response.
                                I think the reason for all this is that FAA have send out a revision to Boeing Type Certificates.
                                (now I take B777 because is easy to overview) FAA Revision 40 to TYPE CERTIFICATE DATA SHEET NO. T00001SE dated August 12, 2016.

                                http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/8bff0e63469dd8eb862580190055ffa6/$FILE/T00001SE_Rev40.pdf

                                On page 16 you find this short paragraph, which show the previous models, and the future model number (from Line no 1415):

                                Model Eligible Serial Numbers (sorry for the bad layout - tabulator is not available here).
                                777-F16 38091, 41518
                                777-F28 32965-32967, 32969
                                777-F60 42031-42034
                                777-F1B 37309-37314, 41632-41637
                                777-F1H 35606-35613, 42230-42234
                                777-F6N 37708, 37710, 37711, 37713-37717, 41817, 41846
                                777-FBT 41674-41678
                                777-FDZ 36098-36100, 39644, 39645, 41427, 42298, 42299, 62083, 62085
                                777-FEZ 62631
                                777-FFG 60337- 60339
                                777-FFT 44678-44685
                                777-FFX 39682, 39691-39692, 62744, 62745
                                777-FHT 37138, 38969, 39285, 39286
                                777-FZB 37986-37989
                                777-FZN 36001-36004, 36198-36201
                                777-FB5 37638-37642
                                777-FS2 37137, 37721-37730, 37732-37735, 38707, 40674, 40675, 41064-41067, 41439,41749
                                777F Reserved for new serial numbers after Line Number 1415.

                                Now, my post is not to make any disturbances, but to raise the question, and if so, to make the FR24 database correct.

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