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Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China - Flight MH370
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Last edited by bhavlobhuro; 2014-03-18, 16:14.
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Is it possible for MH370 to have linked up with another civilian flight with a transponder on to fly undetected on ATC screens? Looking at the playback from that night (start at 17:00 UTC March 7) I have identified Malaysian 30 (MH30) as a candidate and a web blogger with the same idea identified Singapore 68. From what I gather the proximity warnings are keyed off transponders working so neither plane would set off alarms. As well, for MH30 the flight plan could be shared with the MH370 pilot well in advance to program it in at a slightly lower altitude (or in fact program in a whole rendezvous as well). And of course, MH370 would be able to listen to ATC comms to follow any required course changes. Is it even possible to mask yourself this way?
MH30 flies DIRECTLY through the entirety of Iran and it would be reached approximately 7.25 hours from deptature of MH370 (12:00am March 8 UTC). SIA68 would get to Turkmenistan in approximately the same timeframe.
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Originally posted by iazoniccc View PostThere is no way anyone can say that with any degree of certainty whatsoever given the fact that the last known satellite correspondence (or ping) was one hour after the aircraft's endurance expiry. That is to say that the fuel that MH370 was given before it departed KL had ran out, yet 60 minutes later it was clearly still powered up, ready, able and willing to provide satellite communication. This can certainly NOT be demonstrated from an aircraft at the bottom of the ocean.
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Originally posted by Oblivian View PostSure..
It was on day 1 or 2 of the start. And as many of us have pointed out it's a case of don't beleive what you read, or continue to pass the information on until verified
It appears their source was twitter, and that chinese media jumped on it and falsely reported without actually looking into it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0M50B120140308
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Originally posted by Exadios View PostIs that endurance a result of your own calculations?
It is surely fair to say that, at this moment in time, given the absolute facts, there is no more evidence that the passengers are dead than that they are alive. To suggest they are alive would be hazardous for so many reasons, but given the cold hard facts, there is simply no evidence to the contrary either.
Is the mortality state of the 239 SOB a result of your own calculations?Last edited by iazoniccc; 2014-03-18, 15:09.
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Originally posted by iazoniccc View PostThere is no way anyone can say that with any degree of certainty whatsoever given the fact that the last known satellite correspondence (or ping) was one hour after the aircraft's endurance expiry. That is to say that the fuel that MH370 was given before it departed KL had ran out, yet 60 minutes later it was clearly still powered up, ready, able and willing to provide satellite communication. This can certainly NOT be demonstrated from an aircraft at the bottom of the ocean.
According to one report, the flight was given a standard 30 minutes of extra fuel beyond what it needed to get to Beijing. I would presume that the people who calculated the first series of circles overlaying maps of the globe used a standard calculation even before the Malaysian government got around to confirming it. Since there's nothing that can be done to increase the maximum possible range, that leaves only the probability that the plane landed safely enough to turn on the APU to power the avionics bay for at least an hour.
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Originally posted by MartH View PostHighly unlikely. Snopes is your friend: http://www.snopes.com/politics/consp...ysiapatent.asp
Saying things like "spread this information everywhere" is tantamount to an admission of lying.
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Originally posted by putnik View PostHere is a good simple explanation of the aircraft systems and these "pings":
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/s...ngs-tim-farrar
Note that there's no need to enclose the word ping in quotes; the name of the utility is literally ping. Anyone doing computer networking has used it many times.
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Originally posted by Exadios View PostUnfortunately, the climb to 45,0000 feet has, like the plane itself, disappeared with trace. It s current location is unknown. It has been replaced with a FMS managed turn which, for reasons unknown, indicates foul play.
Without actual physical evidence or other evidence from other sources, the value of what the Malaysian government is saying drops every day. This is one "fact" that can only be gotten from the possession of the airframe itself. Even then it's a mighty big leap of faith.
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The Thai air force is now saying they tracked a plane after MH370 disappeared, but it wasn't judged a threat to Thai security as it was in Malaysian airspace.
A newspaper report also claims Thai air force only just handed over the radar information because Malaysia hadn't specifically asked them for it.
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Originally posted by Exadios View PostYes, that's bad news. Plainly the NTSB are collecting a lot of their out data independent of the Malaysians.
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Originally posted by Speed Daemon View PostThat's the best prima facie evidence that we have right now that the aircraft must have landed somewhere. (Let that sink in.)
According to one report, the flight was given a standard 30 minutes of extra fuel beyond what it needed to get to Beijing. I would presume that the people who calculated the first series of circles overlaying maps of the globe used a standard calculation even before the Malaysian government got around to confirming it. Since there's nothing that can be done to increase the maximum possible range, that leaves only the probability that the plane landed safely enough to turn on the APU to power the avionics bay for at least an hour.
For one we can almost surely say that a catastrophic failure did not occur. The aircraft could not have remained airborne for so long, neither can it stay afloat for so long as to communicate effectively with satellites.
Pilot suicide to me personally appears far-fetched in that all that was required was a trip to the WC by the unknowing party while the other disengages the auto pilot, maximum thrust and nose down into the dark abyss of the South China Sea. Highly unlikely that he was so suicidal that he wanted to die and take 200+ innocent passengers with him, not right now, but many hours later. No doubt allowing time for everyone else on board, including the other pilot to overcome him and take back control.
Almost like something out of a soap opera, but not so much a "whodunnit?" as a "whodunwhat?". Without pushing tin, there's a few countries in and around the northern search corridor I wouldn't trust with a plastic spoon.
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